In Dota 2, most ultimate CC cannot be removed with BKB

TheThundersRoar·Feb 10, 2016·6 votes·1,001 views

If you're willing to blow a multi-minute CD CC to specifically kill one enemy you're rewarded for it.

Here, once a fed ADC has QSS/Mercurial Scimitar (which any good AD gets vs CC) you can kiss your focus CC goodbye and hope you are twice as fed to 1-shot him or it's over.

WW catching an ADC out becomes suicide. A clutch Sejuani ult can get her entire team killed as they go face first into the fight. And so on.

This game needs to have some sort of counterplay to QSS/Mercurial. Other than comboing long-duration CC just to try and kill 1 out of 5 people, which is absurd.

8 Comments

Z StatisticFeb 10, 20162 votes

BKB gives 10-5 seconds of spell immunity. QSS cleanses all debuffs.

You've overstating the power of QSS compared to BKB and underestimating the frequency in which people chain cc in this game.

TheThundersRoarFeb 10, 20161 votes

BKB is a lot more extreme in that game (as is almost everything), that's true.

But everything is counterable, despite its strength. When you're willing to blow an entire Chronosphere or risk your Bane getting in range to ult to get that one fed carry, you are allowed to. The downfall is that you just wasted an AoE ultimate for one person. Unlike here, where they can QSS out of your best CC ultimate and go back to playing normally.

It's extremely difficult to kill a fed ADC with QSS and a dedicated support. More difficult than taking out a BKB.

Z StatisticFeb 11, 20161 votes

What the hell are you talking about? The thing is a Morg shield that can't be popped and only certain ultimates' cc affects the user. The only way to kill the bastard is through physical or pure damage. The user literally just dives for the hard carry that can kill him, stuns him, and goes to town on them. Even if that carry ALSO has a BKB, they then just go cage fighting and the one with the better survivability and dps wins.

This is a far cry from QSS where you can actually mess up the cast and make the thing worthless. At least BKB always has the Zhonya effect of creating a zone around you for 10-5 seconds. QSS does not do that.

Maple CrusaderFeb 10, 20161 votes

Mind you, not everyone will buy a QSS/Mercurial Scimitar

TheThundersRoarFeb 10, 20161 votes

True, but any good ADC gets it when an enemy has WW, Amumu, Sej, etc.

At which point these ults become an interrupt (unless you land a 4-man) and he becomes a meatshield for the backline, which is not nearly what he is supposed to be.

DreadlocksFeb 10, 20161 votes

Good ADC players are hard to come by, i mean, when the enemy team has 3 tanks Malphite Amumu Leona and my Caitlyn builds item 3031 item 3006 item 3094 item 3139 item 3085 When i specifically asked her nicely to get a tank shredding item before she even started her .. There is very little hope my friend. As her 6th item she finally got the basic item 3035 .. because when Malphite has 630 armor, its not a problem, but if hes got 650 then we need a -_- Never mind the other 2 tanks.