Sona Goes Squish

ArlanKels··4 votes·548 views

I've been playing mostly support since I got back and I've noticed one thing. Sona is the squishiest thing this side of a ripe berry.

So I was wondering why.. Sona's HP: 482 Armor: 20.5 MR: 30 base Heal: 30(10 CD)

Soraka's HP: 529 Armor: 23.4 MR: 30 Base heal: 80(Not on herself) Rejuvenation: 14 per second for 3 seconds(42) Starcall CD on 5 seconds.

Nami's HP: 489 Armor: 19.7 MR: 30(wait..is everyones base MR 30? Holy crap!) Base Heal: 65 on 10 CD.

Basically Soraka has more HP/Armor and technically more healing. Nami has barely better HP, slightly worse armor but a WAY better heal on the same amount of CD. Plus both Soraka and Nami have a "CC on demand"(Starcall can slow, Nami can slow and knockup) whereas Sona's only CC requires building up charges and then using her E(Which drains mana) before then autoattacking to apply a slow.

Am I saying Sona needs a buff? Yes. Yes I am. Not a large one, but a small one obviously. A tiny number tweak for the initial levels. Right now she is absurdly squishy in the pre-6 range. Am I crazy?

14 Comments

Miror B4 votes

See, I'd argue that her ulti needs a buff/change more than anything. For a heavy poke support, that short-range linear stun does absolutely nothing to prevent her from being blown up in teamfights. Giving it either slightly longer range or the ability to be used like ez's ulti could make it better without making it excessive.

Pika3102 votes

It's funny you should mention this, because Rito secretly nerfed both its width AND range in patch 4.13, whilst repeatedly falsely claiming on multiple occasions otherwise. They even updated her champion page to list the new shorter range, they literally handed us the very evidence of their own misconduct and lies.

DeathBurst2 votes

Yeah, maybe you could post a pre-4.13 video where it worked and a post-4.13 video were it doesn't? Because, without a reliable source, I won't believe you on your word...

Claiming conspiracy theories is not the best way to get the community OR the devs to listen to you...

Iceember2 votes

You have seen the damage output on a level one sona compared to Raka and nami right?

ArlanKels2 votes

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You have seen the damage output on a level one sona compared to Raka and nami right?

I wouldn't mind seeing the actual hard numbers on that. :D

Iceember1 votes

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I wouldn't mind seeing the actual hard numbers on that. :D

Not at home so I can't do the math for ya but here's a rough estimate. 2 stacks of 3 for power cord and with a n auto q auto +thunderlords I end up leaving an adc with 1/2 an hp bar

ArlanKels1 votes

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Not at home so I can't do the math for ya but here's a rough estimate. 2 stacks of 3 for power cord and with a n auto q auto +thunderlords I end up leaving an adc with 1/2 an hp bar

So it'd be a comparison of two autoattacks + one damage spell + thunderlords?

Iceember2 votes

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So it'd be a comparison of two autoattacks + one damage spell + thunderlords?

Depending on runes the q should do a decent amount of damage not to mention the 2nd auto would be empowered due to her passive. The first auto is so we can proc thunderlords to deal a maximum amount of damage.

Korweeabooo4 votes

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Not at home so I can't do the math for ya but here's a rough estimate. 2 stacks of 3 for power cord and with a n auto q auto +thunderlords I end up leaving an adc with 1/2 an hp bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkNnFuABHjY#t=0m5s please stop talking out of your ass rofl sona doesnt come CLOSE to 1/2 someone at level 1

nami also has far more damage in her kit than sona does her ebb and flow alone heals for 2x sona w while doing 2x sonas q damage nami also gets a power chord on every aa with her aa buff

soraka also bursts far harder infact her silence is the hardes hitting non ultimate ingame with 460 damage at max rank

Iceember1 votes

What runes are you running? I use hybrid pens with 26 AP. I burst much harder than seen in the video you provided.

Korweeabooo1 votes

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What runes are you running? I use hybrid pens with 26 AP. I burst much harder than seen in the video you provided.

that was before thunderlords existed but at level 1 its still not going to half health an adc

the only time sona half healths an adc is ater she gets frost queen and has had time to scale

DeathBurst1 votes

Powerchord is a basic attack reset, that's why Iceember told you explicitly you had to be at 2 of 3 stacks. You are at 3 already in the video you linked.

One more attack+thunderlord+runes/masteries optimized for poking and if you do not deal 50% of a typical ADC life, you're at least at 40%...

Vincenttnecniv1 votes

When they change her Q like they did heimer's rockets, then she can have a buff. Her poke is retarded atm.

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