For those who misinterpreted the Reval and need clarification on Kalista...
1.) She is the ADC. She is not the support.
2.) She cannot force anybody to do ANYTHING. Her ult cannot force the soul-bound ally to dash in.
3.) When ulted the Soul-Bound ally CHOOSES whether they want to flee or engage. It is not Kalista's call. It is the Soul-Bound.
(that moment you edit some things because people brought back an outdated thread to life.)
Valaran Nara5 votesRight now on the PBE, there was somebody who made the suggestion of a "timer" of sorts. If the soul-bound becomes AFK for 3 minutes, then Kalista can bound with another.
Hopefully, that summoner's suggestion is taken in consideration. She's team reliant. Without her soul-bound support, it goes from a 5 v 5 down to a 3 v 5
...3-1/2 v 5
Lorinne2 votesI just want an answer from Riot about what's going to happen if the soul-bound teammate AFKs... It makes Kalista's ult completely useless. Not to mention the W passive...
Jungle Lux God1 votesActually, Kalista isn't really a pure utility ADC. She seems to be a hybrid of Vayne and Varus, having mobility compared to Vayne and utility compared to Varus.
Also, she does force the soul-bound ally to come to her, but as you said, not when her ally wants to flee or engage.
JustMyBassCannon1 votesActually, she's not a very utility-based ADC. She's a kiting-based ADC.
Her sentinel gives her a bit of vision, but she's more like Caitlyn than Ashe in that regard. And then there's her Twitch-like E, that gains stacks without limit based on Qs/basic attacks.
She's going to feel pretty terrible if you don't have great teamwork, considering her only hard CC is ally-dependent, and her soul-bond damage output bonuses...
AMYS GRAVE1 votesI main braum and i don't like kalista, because...
there is no choice to accept the contract or not.
she can pull you out of play without choice or warning.
while you get to decide where to go, sometimes i would rather cast my abilities than get pulled out of combat.
true example i'm braum, adc kalista- lucian ults, kalista pulls me out of combat, kalista dies because she is standing in the lucian ult, i get no choice to go anywhere because she died, i die to the lucian ult. if i had been able to put up my shield we both would have lived.
another example- defending turret i'm trying to put up my braum shield to avoid jayce/nidalee poke, kalista ults me, the poke lands on and kills our midlane apc, since i was trying to put up my shield i was clicking in the direction of their team and get plopped into the enemy team by her ult, i die and my team is now 3v5.
kalista is for adc's who don't trust their support to help on their own and feel they have to force their support to do something.
Valaran Nara2 votesThat's when they're solo q...usually.
I solo q'd with her several times before, though. The first time I did so, I was very judicial and selective about when I decided to ult.
I told the support how my ult works and that I will use it if I feel that they might die if I don't do something in time. I even told them that I'll ping twice on the enemy, and I'll wait for them to ping it back for me to ult.
But I only said all of that in 1 game. The others, I pretty much used it under 3 circumstances.
1.) If my support is in crisis mode and need escape ASAP ( I saved my Maokai soulbound twice and yanked him out of a 1 v 3 when his health was around 100)
2.) If we're trying to go after the same target and they're lagging behind. Surprise attacks are fun, and it gets us sooner into the fray.
3.) If I am certain that ulting them doesn't interrupt anything meaningful they do. As I mentioned with Maokai, he was already going into a fight. I saw him W onto an enemy and snare. Since I remember how Maokai works, I decided to ult him then since he didn't really have that much of a combo move to do right then. We secured a kill, and it all worked out since we pretty much held the target in 1 position long enough to rip through them like wet Toilet Paper.
I feel bad that you had a bunch of experiences when a Kali ult ruined a play as opposed to making it. X_X I try my best to think about what I'm doing before ulting randomly. The range isn't global, and I have to rely on my partner to actually be able to do something meaningful. I'm not going to waste it on random BS
And so far, I'm glad to say that nobody has complained about my ult as of yet.
AMYS GRAVE1 voteshaha,
it sounds like you use her meaningfully, i approve :) its just that the troll potential here is extremely high.
Valaran Nara2 voteshaha,
it sounds like you use her meaningfully, i approve :) its just that the troll potential here is extremely high.
Lol. I'm just cautious. VERY cautious.
I use it as a save first and an engage second.
Cozarkian1 votesThat was Riot's intent.
Seems true
She can force somebody to disappear from the map and move their body. Did Kalista just jump into a group of allies and you want to run away? Oh no, she just pulled you with her. Sure you can try to jump toward your tower, but even if you find a direction with no enemies, the valuable time you lost means you will be within range of the enemy cc and never escape. Flash over a wall to escape -- get back here. Already in a fight but confident you will win because you have a heal/shield/burst ability? Better hope Kalista has the same confidence and doesn't pull you out of the fight, giving your soon-to-be-dead target a chance to escape.
Sort of, sometimes there are no good directions to travel and you would have been better off in your old position.
Are you sure? I haven't been offered the spear but it is my understanding there is no way to decline based on complaint posts.
Valaran Nara1 votes
- She can force somebody to disappear from the map and move their body. Did Kalista just jump into a group of allies and you want to run away? Oh no, she just pulled you with her. Sure you can try to jump toward your tower, but even if you find a direction with no enemies, the valuable time you lost means you will be within range of the enemy cc and never escape. Flash over a wall to escape -- get back here. Already in a fight but confident you will win because you have a heal/shield/burst ability? Better hope Kalista has the same confidence and doesn't pull you out of the fight, giving your soon-to-be-dead target a chance to escape.
Let me see, there was one time I was laning with a Morgana, and I remember seeing the spotlight, so I was like "Okay, cool. This could work." When we were in enemy base, I saw her charge straight into a group of 3 enemies, and I freaked out because I thought she may have lagged. I tried to rush over to her and checked tab to see what the enemy had. I noticed she had Zhonyas...
Then I saw her ult, and I'm like "WAIT!" And, I cursed myself for nearly ruining her ult. @w@ She got a triple kill and walked out with about 200 health. I was about to be "that guy"
- Sort of, sometimes there are no good directions to travel and you would have been better off in your old position.
And sometimes, when I save my support, I make sure that I Q-hop-flash, and face in the other direction, so if they did need help they get as much distance as possible. But yeah. So far, I just got lucky on not pissing people off yet.
- Are you sure? I haven't been offered the spear but it is my understanding there is no way to decline based on complaint posts.
I believe I made this thread during the reveal and before she hit live. It's outdated, and I didn't expect it to come back. I played her. They don't have an option on whether or not they become oathsworn.