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Reworks needed Way to many EASY champs.

TacB VIPEREYE·3/6/2015, 4:42:02 AM·1 votes·565 views

Now I find most champs easy to play with enough experience with them, but does anyone one seriously get pissed off when lets say... a malzahar ultt/Ignites you. Or a heimer sits on his turrets, Goes afk and comes back having a triple kill.

Now don't get me wrong..Azir slams heimer 9 times out of ten. But 90% of the other mid laners gonna do? Sit behind turret or gank lanes and watch it get bombed ? I have a problem...with champs that are spoon fed progress.

How hard is it to apply the DOT ignite ult and get a free kill with malzahar? Maybe throw a couple auto's if for some reason that didn't work. Point is, Its not hard whatsoever. It severely discusts me. Yeah you could buy QSS...but to put it simply...fuck QSS. (please Buff QSS for AP champs to balance things out)

I love champs like cass, NId (he still has too much dmg) Caitlyn, Ahri, lee sin. With any of these champs requires you hit some form of a skill shot. All of these champs aren't handed anything on a silver platter, if you miss every skill shot then your not in a good place. These champs are fun to play against.

Especially this applys to new players.

just my thoughts

9 Comments

The Paulrus3/6/2015, 1:21:47 PM2 votes

Pick One:

Not handed anything on a silver platter.

bad arcade kitty3/6/2015, 4:47:05 AM1 votes

since when nid is extremely easy, lol also her winrate is below 50%

DarthSpectrum3/6/2015, 4:59:17 AM1 votes

Actually, in my opinion Heimerdinger takes more skill to play than most of the champions you listed. Most of the champions you consider difficult are not actually difficult at all compared to the rest of the roster.

Having a dependency on skill shots doesn't matter when that skill shot has less than 5 seconds CD or is supplemented by unparalleled mobility to position for that spell. Cassiopeia is maybe somewhat difficult early game, but late game she just spams E on a poisoned enemy. She doesn't even have to kite or orbwalk because her poison gives her an MS boost, and mana management is non-existent.

The same goes for Nid, Cait, Ahri, and Lee Sin. Their skill shots are spammable with a moderate to low CD. In the cases of Nid, one Q does ultimate level damage while on less than 5 seconds of CD.

Heimerdinger on the other hand has no mobility, and is dependent on turrets with lower health than minions. His kill potential relies on the mistakes of his enemy or landing skill shots. (Heim has no targeted abilities, unlike some of the champions you've listed.)

I will give it to you that Malzahar is very easy to play. His space aids gives him superior mana regeneration, and his high ratio on his abilities allow him to 100-0 you with a E, W, Q, R combo.

As a new player, I would rather go against Heim than Lee Sin or Nidalee. The only "skillful" champion that expresses player skill in a meaningful way on your list is Azir, who has some serious weaknesses. The shear amount of base damage and scaling is not justified by having to land a skill shot or two. I'd much rather clear out heim turrets before engaging than eating a Nid spear for half my health or have Cass spam E all the way to my turret.

Romans VI XXIII3/6/2015, 4:59:57 AM1 votes

Cait is considered the easiest ADC LMFAO. hiem has more skill shots that she does.

Go play heim and go AFK, I bet u never get a triple kill. Ult and ignite with malz, I also bet you never get a kill. It takes alot more than what you are trying to make it seem to get kills with these champs.

If you are getting ult/ignited by malz and dieing then you have yet to learn how to play against him, if you are dieing to heims turrets while he is AFK, you need to learn how to AA some turrets.

Go play those 2 champs, and you will find out that they actually require alot more planning ahead than most champs. (like cait for example)

OhOkYea3/6/2015, 5:27:05 AM1 votes

Heimer is good in the laning phase. After that, it's whether or not team mates are smart enough to take advantage of his turrets. Can't tell you how many team fights were lost because heimer set up a turret trap and team mates get slaughtered because they didn't take advantage.

He's too team reliant late game. So, if you're having problems with heimer is because the enemy team is better than yours.

TacB VIPEREYE6/18/2015, 1:56:08 AM1 votes

My thoughts on heimer is that, yes he has skill shots and required knowledge to use him properly, But ive also noticed that he simply does not run out of mana like your typical APC..I can juke most APC's skill shots until they simply have no mana...go all in and walk out victorious because i knew that without mana there is not much that can be done in retaliation.

Wither heimerdinger there is no silver lining. Also he seems to get some kind of HP Regen. So even if you Dmg him...doesint matter he wil recover the dmg and his kit makes it absolutely obnoxious in making sure you cannot get off a fair trade.

Reduce Regen for HP and Mana and you will never hear me complain about a heimerdinger even again as ill have a valid strategy to use against a champion that can push waves, recover damage, and seemingly never run out of mana. He never destroys me in lane at all but i do not like how he is such a safe pick in lane.

Malz can just ult ignite and chuck down his DOT and your basically dead. His mechanics are too rewarding. Same thing with Vlad. A good Vlad can be seriously abusive and i know this because i have played him and mastered him.

my problem is that WHEN THESE CHAMPS ARE MASTERED there is very little counter play. These champions are only examples. But my main point is that i would like to see more diversity among all champions. My most hated champion is Warwick. I go ballistic if ever a warwick kills me. just for the simple fact its warwick. Warwick could be sooo much fun to play. Hes a werewolf...Why not give him some dashing leaps or a knock up or something...perhaps making him a highly mobile tank/fighter that can gank before 6. I would totally play him if he was more fun :)

mtAkFzLsUS3/6/2015, 4:44:44 AM1 votes

Yes, the thing is however, on champions like nidalee, ahri and lee sin, if you suck ass you will then be on par with normal champions because they are also extremely easy, with a very high skill cap.

LegacyDAP6/18/2015, 2:01:32 AM1 votes

Oh look guys another. "Everything should be a skill shot," thread. I'm going to ask one simple question. Why do you want this to happen? Do you want League to require skill for every champion? And why do you think that every champion needs a skill shot or else it's too easy or broken?

It's kind of like saying Kassadin's Over Powered He gets a shield that blocks ap damage, but he doesn't even have to aim it at a target, or another scenario Ryze is balanced his q is a skill shot.