riot, are you kidding me?

destos·May 2, 2018·2 votes·1,274 views

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> ** Essence Reaver New Recipe: [B.F. Sword + Caulfield’s Warhammer + 800 gold] Total Cost: 3200g Cooldown Reduction increased from 10% to 20% [Removed] No longer grants critical strike chance [Removed] No longer grants additional CDR based on critical strike chance. [Changed Effect] Mana refund reworked: Now grants 1% of missing mana on hit. > [New Effect] UNIQUE Passive: For 8 seconds after your ultimate, gain 30% attack speed, and basic attacks refund 20% of your remaining non-ultimate cooldowns (30 second cooldown).

11 Comments

Dead flag bluesMay 2, 20182 votes

Didn't we just nerf mages because they had "too much mana and no more mana issues" ? Lmfao

New core item on Azir I guess

Critmaster GarenMay 2, 20183 votes

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Didn't we just nerf mages because they had "too much mana and no more mana issues" ? Lmfao

mana did become a joke in this game. i noticed that early game mana management became non existent, when it became impossible to use your advantage as a resourceless champion over an opponent who uses mana.

in the past (like season 3) i was able to bait out enemy abilities to force them to play careful or running oom.

since item 2033 became a thing, youre basically constantly in situations where you think "oh, he is almost oom, maybe now i can make a pla- aaaand, hes at 60% mana again because he used one charge".

and then after one mana item, no one is running out of mana anymore either way.

that being said, i was never a fan of giving adc an item like essence reaver. theyre even less mana gated than most classes to begin with. i dont know why they should have an item that entirely removes mana management for them, when even after running oom theyre still threatening because autos.

Pokemonred200May 2, 20182 votes

This actually gives less mana to an Essence Reaver user who has a decent amount of crit already, since the old one was 3% max mana per crit, vs this one's 1% missing mana per crit.

It could be a buff to non-crit ER users, but to those that did build it w/ crit (like Lucian, Xayah, and Miss Fortune) it's definitely going to be a nerf... to its mana sustain. It's a huge buff to its combat power though, even if it is at the cost of some effiency to the champions who lost 10% CDR and some mana regen in their crit builds.

CaptainChinstrapMay 2, 20182 votes

Sounds super broken on vayne or Kai'sa

TempName74814May 2, 20181 votes

basic attacks refund 1% of your missing mana

they're just giving this item back to the exact same shithead who made it change to a crit item Ezreal

DuskDaUmbreonMay 2, 20181 votes

[Changed Effect] Mana refund reworked: Now grants 1% of missing mana on hit.

This is a decent disincentivisation for Akali picking it up. The only mana item she gets is Lich bane, and only because it's passive definitely makes up for it on her, and the bonus MS and CDR is also strong.

UNIQUE Passive: ...gain 30% attack speed ... (30 second cooldown).

Those are also pretty useless for Akali, and probably Nida, Kassadin, and Darius. And the 30 second cooldown makes it a waste on Teemo and Kog'maw, who primarily use their ults for waveclear. Probably hampers Udyr, Nida, and Jayce, as well. And the requirement to ult first means it's useless for Quinn, and probably hurts its usability a bit on Nida...

destosMay 2, 20181 votes

its good on akali because her ult queues an autoattack on target, that means you can Q R a target and have 20% cd refunded on your other abilities instantly,greatly increasing burst. same for nidalee, ult pounce in q and then benefit from cd reunds. not to mention that akali and nid both have ad scaling. Kassadin Q R auto W autoreset for 40% refund instantly Q again.

you're focusing on the wrong thing here. the cd refund for non-ultimate abilities for 8 seconds after ulting will be ABUSED like nobodies business by champions with easily accessibly ults. Udyr's abilties will basically have 0 cd because they are auto attack resets

DuskDaUmbreonMay 2, 20181 votes

I feel like you're focusing on the wrong thing.

The %current CD reset is nice on all of those champions, but it's not enough to warrant the 3200g price on it for the ones I listed.

It has nice effects, and a few you listed might abuse it, but the loss on so many parts of it just doesn't warrant it. The AS is useless to half the champions you listed, and Akali can't use the mana regen or the mana.

Also, keep in mind, it's 20% of the remaining cooldown. So 5 autos doesn't mean you get a full reset.

And, as I had said before, it going on cooldown whenever you ult means they lose out on a lot. Teemo places a trap in his tribrush, and suddenly, whoops, it's on cooldown, because he wanted his early warning. Kog uses R to clear casters, and it's on cooldown.

Nidalee uses her R to clear camps, meaning she'll waste it a ton of the time, too.

And, finally, just because you have AD ratios doesn't mean it's worthwhile to go into an ADC-oriented item. Nidalee's AD ratios just aren't enough to justify it, and, as I said, while Akali has good AD ratios, she doesn't need mana, mana regen, or attack speed, and her cooldowns are low enough by the time she could opt into this (About as a third or fourth item, Gunblade and Lich Bane have priority) that the 20% remaining reset would just be a joke. She'd actually drive herself to run out of energy, that way.

This will open up the item to some of those you listed, but it'll still be useless to others.

DW DianaMay 2, 20181 votes

God I can't wait to try this in Diana. With her passive/E, 40% cdr and nashors tooth! Fiesta!!!! xD

ManslayerMay 2, 20181 votes

Meanwhile I cry reading those changes for my girl... Xayah. R.I.P my LoL career not doing this shit again where a champ I love gets basically removed and I have to find another one.

DuskDaUmbreonMay 2, 20181 votes

Xayah loses the mana regen, sure, but she'll actually get to E a second time after she ults, so that's useful.

And it's more mana restoration with just ER, too, so that's also a plus.