Cloud Dragon is not an all inclusive Dragon and should be changed to fit the all champions better

Sagee Prime·12/12/2019, 6:53:33 PM·7 votes·2,547 views

If you play Champions like EliseElise, GnarGnar, JayceJayce, NidaleeNidalee, Quinn,Quinn, ShyvannaShyvana, UdryUdyr you know what I'm talking about.

GnarGnar and ShyvannaShyvana have no cooldowns on their ultimate and are only able to activate these abilities when they reach max fury. They benefit from the dragon soul but not the actual dragon buff.

EliseElise, JayceJayce, and NidaleeNidalee have extremely short ultimate cooldowns and while the ult cooldown works on them it has next to 0 benefit to them and to top it off, just like old Nibus cloak, they can't even activate the Dragon Soul bonus. This dragon does not benefit their kits.

Finally we have QuinnQuinn and UdyrUdyr who don't seem to benefit from either(correct me if I'm wrong)

I personally believe ULT CDR has no place in the game especially as a dragon acquired buff and that in game objectives should aim to be as all inclusive as they can. Multiple champions aren't able to benefit cloud and I believe that warrants a change and I have suggestions for that change that still partially maintain the original idea.

Cloud Dragon will no longer grant ULT CDR but instead grant 10% regular CDR but unlike the ULT specific CDR this will not stack with other forms of ability CDR. You'll still be locked in at the 40% CDR cap(Unless you went into inspiration tree)

What does this do? Well it allows players to itemize less for CDR and more for other stats they may want and not always get. This will allow more opportunities for item diversity and build flexibility.

Next we're going to attack the Dragon Soul with an old idea. Remember boot enchantments? How about the one called Furor?

Well guess what Dragon Soul is going to be an updated version of that. It'll give passive movement speed plus a stacking amount of movespeed for each single target attack or spell you hit. You can adjust the movement speed amounts on the innate amount and the stacking amount but my idea was 5% passive movespeed plus 5%(stacking 5 times) per single target spell or attack. Lasts 3 seconds but refreshed on attacks

What does this do? It allows you to get that juicy big movement speed boost but it's locked behind a stacking system so you can't just pop into a fight with 30% movespeed instantly like the current soul tried to do but if it's too strong there's an easy fix just like they did with ocean dragon.

Edit: I should note that I don't mean for this to be an actual boot enchantment but rather a new effect in place of the current soul.

tl;dr:

Cloud drake sucks for champions without real ults. Change it so it isn't reliant on ults and has wider impacts on player choices.

Old Cloud dragon buff: ult CDR that stacks with regular CDR past the 40% CDR cap Old Cloud dragon Soul: massive movespeed after ulting(30 second CD)

New Cloud dragon buff: Regular CDR that doesn't break the 40% cap but promotes other itemization choices New Cloud dragon Soul: return of the old furor boot enchantment but updated. gives small stacking movespeed boosts for single target spells and attacks

11 Comments

ZephyrDrake12/12/2019, 7:20:36 PM4 votes

you do know that infernal drake has the same issue for champions that don't build much, if any, AD/AP? and that mountain is also the same for those with little to no armor/MR right?

BladeSteel12/13/2019, 12:48:06 AM2 votes

Gnar has a cooldown on his ult still.

WoonStruck12/12/2019, 7:41:00 PM1 votes

Everyone absolutely hates all of those champions, barring shyvanna when shes actually built to be a bruiser.

I see no problems.

Keiaga12/13/2019, 1:29:31 AM1 votes

Fire is pretty worthless on tank and support champs that aren't building any offensive stats

d4rkshock12/14/2019, 10:54:24 AM1 votes

If the 3rd dragon is cloud and your up against Talon, you better get them or else you're fucked because of how much ult cdr he will have because of ultimate hunter but thats for another day. As soneone who olays shyvana, i totally agree woth how cloud drake is useless on champions with no real ultimate or no ult cd. I would say secondary meter charges faster on manaless champions but then Tryndamere Renekton exist and we dont need renekton destroying our top laners and then taking over a game. we also don't need tryndamere metling towers for free when he just sat in lane all game. As for eneergy, who cares. It already charges super fast.