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With the new Runes system, what will happen to the current stat-boosting Runes?

Dancer Neeko·6/17/2017, 4:50:31 PM·34 votes·5,116 views

More precisely, the less popular Runes.

From what I've understood, the new Runes system will be more like the Mastery system than the stat-boosting Runes we have currently, right? Then, how will we have stat boosts, rather than "playstyle" boosts? My main concern is that I spent ~10k IP on Crit Damage Runes for when I play Miss Fortune whom I main, but Crit Damage isn't a stat that is very widely used (or cared for, or known at all even. I had no idea those Runes even existed before). What will happen to that with the new Rune system? I don't expect it to randomly have a Crit Damage thing when nobody uses that, but then what will I do? Will I be forced to give up playing Miss Fortune the way I personally like, which I thought the Rune system was all about? Will I be forced to change my MF playstyle into something everyone else is playing? Will you really take the uniqueness of my playstyle away from me with the new Rune system? Doesn't that go against the point?

I'm hoping there will be an alternative for everything that can be bought as Runes right now. Everything is used by someone out there. Taking their playstyle away from them isn't cool.

47 Comments

Durzaka6/17/2017, 5:05:19 PM5 votes

They are going away.

Champions will likely get stat boosts across the board to make up for AD/AP/MR/AR lost, but no. You wont get to do a cheesey max CD rune page anymore.

azrolator6/17/2017, 6:12:54 PM5 votes

I'm less concerned with getting a refund for my 17 pages and more concerned that many of my champs will become even more unplayable. Move speed runes are almost a requirement for a bruiser champ now with all the movespeed items being removed or nerfed. Many junglers are not going to be able to jungle without attack speed. What about energy runes? There are 0 options to replace those in masteries and in items. Maybe they will recompensate us with skins like "Still as a Boulder Garen" or "Matrix Fight Scene Xin".

SweedishGunner6/18/2017, 1:52:06 AM4 votes

New rune system doesn't seem to be even worth it imo. It's going to be a balance shit storm and unique rune builds will be lost.

I'm using a 0 AP, full magic pen rune build on Malz right now, I guess that'll be dead. The current rune system is fine, it's just too expensive and a little inflexible (great for some troll builds though).

Heck we even saw an EXP rune being used in LCS recently.

Baron Perenolde6/18/2017, 8:45:37 AM3 votes

I have a feeling that these runes will be very problematic, especially if they're basing them off of Keystones (which are just terrible).

lolipopevelynn6/18/2017, 3:21:13 AM3 votes

the problem with unique playstyles like crit dmg is not that its not popular, its that it sucks. Yes you have a unique playstyle because you have crit dmg runes, but NO ONE is going to miss crit damage because it sucks compared to other damage boosts runes give you. some people use energy runes when they play akali/lee/zed. Unique playstyle sure but in the grandscheme of things energy runes are worthless.

im going to be harsh here but people like that are just special snowflakes that wont be missed when the snow melts. no one is going to miss crit dmg runes and no one is going to miss energy runes if they are removed. HOWEVER, if they are buffed or reworked in a meaningful way then that is a different story. for example i highly miss stacking gold per 5 on supports or pre rework bankplank, but that shit just isnt viable anymore because of how damage heavy the game is right now. i even still have a gold generating page, but its never going to see alot of use because it needs to be buffed, but if its buffed it will just be broken.

by using gold gen, crit dmg, or energy regen rune pages all you are doing is crippling yourself for no other reason other than to be a special snowflake. for that reason those pages will removed or reworked at best.

SnowFall6/18/2017, 8:16:48 AM2 votes

I have a full crit dmg page worth 28k ip. I doubt I will be compensated but I had some fun back in the day.

SpookyNeedle6/18/2017, 12:37:11 PM1 votes

Rip 1% crit rune

An Undead brat6/18/2017, 1:15:25 PM1 votes

Will I be forced to give up playing Miss Fortune the way I personally like, which I thought the Rune system was all about? Will I be forced to change my MF playstyle into something everyone else is playing? Will you really take the uniqueness of my playstyle away from me with the new Rune system?

How to say the same thing three times in a row xD

The Yetii Rider6/18/2017, 4:43:30 PM1 votes

It will be interesting to see how Riot has to change the game with players not starting with 9 armor. The jungle is pretty much tuned around everyone having those 9 armor seals.

ModKnightsKemplar6/18/2017, 6:51:05 PM1 votes

I believe they are going away. I can understand, in cases like yours, why that would be upsetting. I've wondered if the early game monsters and minions will need stat tuning as a result of these changes, too.

But, in the end, this is no different for the players than any other change they've done. Some players are not going to like it at first, but it will (hypothetically) improve the game in the long run. Yeah, it kinda sucks for the few that really enjoyed it, but that's the breaks. I won't miss them, but I won't blame you for missing them, either.

Mikki6/18/2017, 6:54:11 PM1 votes

There's a lot of stuff I play with that makes the "minor" stat boosts from runes necessary or just makes it a lot more fun. Even though they might not be the "best" way to play, I'm still successful or have a lot of fun anyway. They just straight up won't be possible anymore.

The best example I have is Karthus Jungle. It was indirectly buffed when they took away the small monsters, but now it will be completely impossible without a source of Spellvamp. I even took them on Illaoi or Annie sometimes.

Full Magic Pen runes were really strong on Karthus or Middlesticks.

Full Lethality runes for early game cheese with Tiger Udyr or Miss Fortune

Going hybrid early game will be hard since you probably can't mix and match AP/AD or Hybrid Penetration. I used to take a bit of both on Jax/Mordekaiser/Mid Ezreal. Rip Hybrid Pen + Attack Speed Shyvana.

Twitch Jungle and Ezreal Jungle will be borderline impossible to play (if not actually impossible) without Lifesteal runes. Some champions I'd even take Lifesteal runes on lane because my build wouldn't include any sustain, such as Draven or Xayah.

The absence of Health Regen runes on Soraka will make her feel a lot worse.

Can't take Percentage Health runes to make better use of stacking on Sion/Cho'gath/Nunu

No more full Gold per 10 runes for a super passive Janna/Nami lane, or even if I just want to fuck about with Gangplank.

No more Movement Speed quints for Udyr/Skarner/Anivia/Aurelion Sol/Ryze/Brand/Nunu

No more 20% CDR or even 30% CDR at level 18.

No more Health per Level could make a lot of champs feel extremely squishy. Same with MR/MR per Level

And you might be like, all of those examples sound dumb as fuck. What sane person would play Karthus Jungle? Gold runes are super inefficient too. The thing is, that's what I want to do/like doing. Sure there is way better choices both in champion and build, but who cares? This isn't the LCS.

There will always be a better way to do things. But runes let me put my own personal twist on things. If that's no longer possible, then why even have runes in the first place? If there's no choice or option to personalise stuff, then what's the point in having runes? Might as well get rid of them completely, that way we know everyone has the "best" choice. Or is that what they're already doing?

inuitmailman6/18/2017, 11:19:03 PM1 votes

I just really hope they have A LOT of choices. I'm all for this new rune change especially if I'm able to switch between many different runes pages for many different champs. I think the more varied the picking the better the change will be for sure

Tusutaki6/19/2017, 1:49:08 AM1 votes

When is the new runes reforged update coming out? Some of the ideas are kinda neat but I honestly would've preferred the shown runes to be put into masteries instead so that way we have a greater choice and customization like with the old mastery system.

And I dont like the path Riot is taking with streamlining everything and that includes their nerfs. While it may solve a problem at the moment, in the long run they will trap themselves in a corner where diversity no longer exists.

Bot With Dumbass6/17/2017, 4:53:08 PM1 votes

i think they are gone and riot is going to give a reward for ppl who bought them b4 and refund the ip

geogiam11/13/2017, 11:07:58 PM1 votes

I am full time support, the new system messed my game and now I can't play as well as before. The abilities to create unique sets to fix your champs is gone. For example with soraka I can't start the game with 10% CD, that was critical. Tank champions like leona just kill me when I have 80% life, the dmg is ridiculous. I can't add extra mana regeneration or health regeneration which was useful on some of my sup champs. New rune system is bad. I will stop playing as protest, it is frustating to have such under power.

Ok sure but why6/17/2017, 6:30:46 PM1 votes

Man, I love crit damage runes when my support is Janna. That's OP.

SanKakU6/18/2017, 5:47:00 AM1 votes

I actually play Jhin support and Shaco middle with critical strike runes. Loving them TBH. Only times I use them but if I ever owned like Fiora, I might use them for her as well. Caitlyn support might use critical strike runes as well.

BlackOnyxAltear6/18/2017, 9:19:56 AM1 votes

RIP my full magic pen and gold gen runepages. You will be missed. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Cryptocurrency6/18/2017, 9:52:52 AM1 votes

This is my concern aswell, some jungle paths need EXP runes for example. Or a lot of people round there CD-Cap with CDR runes.

Fawksea6/18/2017, 11:28:53 AM1 votes

Not gonna lie your idea is making me have dirty thoughts, fucking christ i lOVE miss fortunes Q crit it makes me laugh maniacally everytime i play her, adding crit damage to that is just unffff, i'd love to do it, but since they for some reason arent making runes 1ip til the rework i can't be bothered to buy the runes. :|