Ekko vs Amumu

diamondlight·Jun 18, 2015·1 votes·1,789 views

Ekko "Parallel Convergence" AOE STUN Cooldown: 22 / 20 / 18 / 16 / 14
Duration: 2.25 seconds

Amumu "Curse of the Sad Mummy" AOE ENTANGLE Cooldown: 150 / 130 / 110
Duration: 2 seconds

Ekko

Gets shield with 80% AP ratio
Can start using it at level 1, typically level 2 though
You only get 0.5 seconds to try to dodge it
Interrupts channels because it's a STUN

Amumu

Does some magic dmg with 20% AP ratio
Has to wait until level 6
Has to wait 10x as long as Ekko to use again
Doesn't interrupt channels because it's an ENTANGLE
Is really crying now, like for real

I think the "sad" mummy is justified in feeling sad now. Just saying.

16 Comments

3TWarriorJun 18, 20152 votes

aren't both stuns? I note that I typically can't attack, use summoner spells or use abilities while hit with amumu's ult and the two combined mean more than 3 seconds of stun for a team to exploit

ekkos has a smaller radius (though is easier to land)

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

Amumu "Entangles" meaning you cannot attack or move, but if you have channeling spell (i.e. Karthus Ult, Morgana Ult, Katarina Ult, Anivia Ult, etc) it WILL NOT INTERRUPT IT.

Ekko, on the other hand is a "Stun" meaning it interrupts all channeled spells.

pE4CbxDPQOJun 18, 20152 votes

People that bitch about Ekko's W are bad. Move along folks.

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

I am not bitching, I am comparing. I am fine with champs that are overpowered.

I am just showing the numbers. I actually think that Amumu ult should also interrupt channels, that's mostly it, OR Ekko should only entangle, not stun.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

Are you dumb? amumu's does an assload of damage in a much wider aoe and its instant, ekkos takes 3 seconds to set up is incredibly easy to dodge and does 0 damage.

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

I am not dumb at all. I was in a game just now watching the comparison.

Ekko built tank, and was STUNNING (interrupting channels) on our entire team every 15 seconds, it takes 3 seconds to "setup" except the enemy team ONLY SEE'S IT FOR 0.5 SECONDS. Our Amumu, in contrast, could only do it once every 150 seconds after he got level 6, that's a HUGE difference, and Amumu's ult Does Not Interrupt Channels.

You call 150 damage + 20% AP, for his level 1 Ult HUGE?

Yes he has a % damage over time with W, 8 + 1% max health at level 1, but at level 6, this is also not HUGE.

Ekko passive on Parallel Convergence does 5%「 (+ 2.22% per 100 AP) 」of target's missing health as bonus magic damage if you're under 30% health, for every basic attack. Now THAT is Huge.

From my point of view I only see it for 1/2 a second, not 3.5 seconds.

Maybe you should look at the actual damage and numbers before calling me "dumb".

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

except that you can see him cast it if you have vision of him, so you have 3 whole seconds to move lol. Also amumu's is 3 times as big and on top of the damage it does late game and the possibility of him stunning your entire team, you also eat an e from him immediately after and 2-3 seconds of his max health shred plus liandries. not to mention whoever got pulled to go nuked by his pull as well. also everyone he damaged just had their mr reduced by a ton from his passive and abyssal so his team is basically doing free true magic damage. Not really comparable as amumu is way more broken then ekko right now. I never see ekko banned really but amumu is banned every other game

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

Amumu banned every other game? I've seen him banned maybe once in the last month of games. Ekko, is banned 80% of the time...

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

amumu, 54 percent win rate ekko-48 percent win rate I think we can end the argument there

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

Ekko was at 40%, now 48%, that's over 2 weeks, and low win rates are common with new champs as people figure out builds.

That's not an argument that has anything to do with the STUN vs ENTANGLEMENT and the 10x shorter cooldown.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

how about the argument i placed where i said it has a 3 times bigger aoe, reduces mr for everyone hit by 25, forces you to stay inside his max health shred for 2-3 seconds and makes him land an auto e on you. Or the argument where i said it does damage, ekko's does not. Or where i said that his is instant whereas ekko's has a 3 sec cast time and you can see him cast it. Or that amumus gap closer to use his is much much longer than ekkos

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

At level 6, in a span of 5 minutes, 300 seconds, Ekko with 3 points in E can try to AOE STUN about 12-14 times, while Amumu can try to AOE Entangle only 2 times. Ekko can also hit R to escape after, Amumu cannot. This is without any CDR.

You get max of 1 Flash in this time, so out of 12-14 attempts, if you have full vision of Ekko, and you can see the cast of W, and happen to be right in the middle of the slow field, and you cannot get out before he enters, you get one flash. Now you have to deal with 11-13 more of those.

It's easy for Ekko to land an auto while you're stunned for 2.5 seconds.

I agree, you cannot dodge Amumu ult, but 12-14 casts vs 2 is a HUGE difference.

You haven't been spammed on by a Tank build Ekko yet. You'll see soon enough.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

your argument is completely invalid you are comparing an aoe stun to an ult on two different characters. Annie has one up just as often as ekko if not more and the same length. So can we compare them? lol no. You are basing your argument of too many variables. IF they are in the middle, which rarely ever happens. You are acting as if every champ has 0 mobility. like 10 percent of league characters have 0 mobility, so yes ekko is good against them. Try pulling that crap on zed, or leblanc, or fizz. or fiora or renekton or garen , or ezreal. see what im saying? they all have basic abilities that could easily get out of that and are on lower cooldown than his w. I could name plenty more. If you are having trouble with him take zed or leblanc, both crap all over him. if you want to obliterate him harder than any character has been obliterated before take renekton against him. Most impossible lane in league history for ekko. back to my other point, amumu's ult is much more reliable. sure he can spam his w in lane all day but he only gets one during a team fight. I would rather have amumu's he isnt gonna miss. Ekko has a large chance of missing or if he lands it diving into them and putting himself in a bad position. Amumu is tanky as all balls he doesnt need an escape

diamondlightJun 18, 20151 votes

I recommend you start looking things up, this is a good site: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/

Annie's stun is 1/2 as long as Ekko, 1.25 seconds, her AOE is really with Tibbers or E, but the E is only a 50 degree cone in front, so much smaller, the AOE with Tibbers is MUCH smaller than Ekko and Cooldown is over 2 minutes at rank 1.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 18, 20151 votes

i suggest you look at that site. If you did yo uwould know it is 1.25 at level 1. It scales with her level so by the time ekko has any huge kill potential her stun is almost the same and she cant miss with hers, one is targeted the other is instant.