Nunu or Ivern

Ivern, he's Nunu but better. Better counter jungling capabilities, better utility and that swag AF walk.

Nunu at least has exceptional early objective control going for him with Consume, I'll give him that tho.

Nunu Pros and Cons:

Pros: Extremely Tanky +20% Health (5% from Cinderhulk, 5% from his mastery, 10% from his Q stacks) Give the ADC Attack Speed Slows for Days Giant Nuke Ult Free Spells (very healthy clear) Good at Invading 2 Smites (Strong objective control, can't be outsmited) Nunu Bot (flash M7, CTRL+4 spam) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhfEgQVDAc&t=1s

Cons: Somewhat Team Reliant (though less so than Ivern) Invade/Counterjungle not as strong as Ivern's No Shields No Hard CC

Ivern Pros and Cons:

Pros: Very Strong Support Shields for DAYS DAISY STAMPEDE!! VERY Strong Counterjungling Q is both a Snare and a Gap Closer for your Team Make Bushes Deal more Damage while in said Bushes Hide Baron and Dragon with said Bushes Swag Walk Troll Invade Tactics Instantly Clear Camps (put passive down, then smite)

Cons: No Attack Speed for ADC Very Team Reliant Q Can Mess Friends Up (AGH WHY AM I STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ENEMY TEAM?!) Very Weak Early Clear (seriously just plant down like 3 groves you'll be on 1 health and 1 mana if you haven't been smiting camps) Much More Difficult than Nunu

Overall, Nunu is more well-rounded, and in my opinion, better for the current META. Ivern is strong in his own right, however, unlike what the guy up there said, he is not "Nunu but better;" in fact, he's more like if Janna were turned into a jungler, whereas a full tank Nunu becomes an unkillable monster who can easily wipe the enemy team off the face of the earth with his ultimate.

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