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Ravenous vs Titanic on Fiora

RickDodger·1/18/2016, 12:49:24 AM·1 votes·1,497 views

I can't seem to get my head around this idea.

So far, I've done some math in terms of 'end game'. I'm still working on how early game works with planning out for Fiora

but I do have a list of items that go with her whole kit, and her role, in general.

item 3812 item 3071 item 3742 item 3065 item 1315

But what I'm stuck on is, besides 20% attack speed runes, 265 scaling HP runes (with 45 HP from mastery), 34 scaling magic resistance runes, and the like...

item 3074 vs item 3748

Armor and MR wise, we have 158.5 armor and 157.4 magic resistance

HP with runes and masteries and items 'currently' would be 3605 HP.

current total AD with the 5 items would be 246 total AD with 130 bonus AD for abilities.

and lifesteal would be 15% (17% from 2% masteries) with 40% CDR from item 3812 item 3071 item 3065.

The only thought left would be the difference besides 100% health regen increase.

item 3074 means that your lifesteal is at 39%, 321 total AD (205 bonus AD), and still at 3605 HP. Meanwhile, you're attacking enemies in a circular area with each auto attack, and have a burst that can come up with a Q, E auto, item burst, second Auto.

item 3748 means your lifesteal is still 17%, with 296 total AD (180 bonus AD), +45 on hit physical damage, and be at 4055 HP. Your auto attacks hit in a cone formation, relying more on item 3812 to heal from 5% cone damage and 15% on-hit physical damage. But the single target burst with one auto attack would be 445 from item 3748, 296 from total AD, and most likely 200 from item 3742.

But what I'm wondering about is the practicality of either type. I hope to get some feedback on all this number crunching and theory crafting.

15 Comments

Illâoi Evê Siôn1/18/2016, 12:51:40 AM1 votes

Usually, I'd rush Ravenous and once I've finished another Tank item I would switch over to Titanic. The damage stays about the same (especially with Grasp of the Undying) and you can apply more pressure on your enemies.

LaoBushido1/18/2016, 12:52:20 AM1 votes

I would say based on your build, titanic is the best, the heal and damage difference should be made up by your pasive

FantasySniper1/18/2016, 2:11:56 AM1 votes

Stay with Ravenous. The burst is better, and that's more important when you want to proc your ultimate's heal - which will also be better because you have more bonus AD scaling the heal.

The Sword Saint1/18/2016, 2:12:43 AM1 votes

Wow that rune setup sounds terrible. It's so greedy, you have to be waaaay over confident to run something like that or else get a super easy lane.

As for your question, just buy ravenous for early-mid game then swap to titanic when you're close to full build since swapping is free, by then you'll have enough hp to get good use out of it, and it gives an auto attack reset unlike ravenous which you can use to hit your ult vitals quickly.

Also you should be going 12/0/18 with grasp of undying mastery.

Anomander1/18/2016, 11:40:45 PM1 votes

The answer is that it depends. Both are correct. However it is a matter of what your team needs.

Lets say your team has really good pick potential and needs the burst. Ravenous is better.

If your team need more of a splitpusher. Ravenous is better.

Lets say the enemy team has a lot of cc and your team needs more of a front liner. Titanic is better.

If your team is more team fight oriented. Titanic is usually better.

These two items are dependent on not only what your team needs but your playstyle as well.

RickDodger1/29/2016, 8:02:20 PM1 votes

Bump. Just doing it now cause this thread became very informative as is.