PSA: There is plenty of AP. You just don't want to build it.

Escheton··4 votes·660 views

item 3027 item 3040 item 3165 item 3089 =100+80+100+125=405 AP before passives. Now, lets assume a meager 1000 mana champ. Thats 400+1000+400 extra mana from items. So...3% of 2800 mana. 84 extra ap. 489 AP before Rabadons. 660 Afterwards. 660 AP wiith 4 items and no runes or masteries.

Why is it such a strange concept that if you want lots of something, you will need to actually build for it? AD has lots of utility items now. They almost all pay for it in AD. AP is now exactly the same. No more free utility. You want it, pay for it. That's fair.

And whats more, the utility is now even cheaper. So it comes into play early. You just may want to trade it out come 50 minutes when you prefer ALL THE DAMAGE!!! (which is fair, 1 pick can win the game at that point)

Also, for those complaining about all that bursting thats going on: On-click Shield from item 3040 for up too 710. (assuming the full 2800 mana)

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Maximum Morde4 votes

And now what if I don't want to build three mana items? Plus, you've just given up on any early or mid game power with that build, and probably already lost the game by the time it matures.

Escheton1 votes

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And now what if I don't want to build three mana items?

Then you are likely playing an AP Bruiser. And going full ap does not benefit you anyways.

Leo10243 votes

PSA: Unless you're playing Ryze or Cassiopeia that build won't work

JafarThePanda1 votes

People who play mages tend to be bitches. That's why they're mages, in the backline.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Jorencice2 votes

Hence why I play full ap front line karthus.

The deeper I go the better.

Muahahaha

Penns1 votes

Its not that I dont want to, but 2 of those dont make sense on the champs I play and Rabadons is.. Only ok.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Not every champ can stack tear... Also Rylais is still the AP best item in the game; who builds ROA outside of Kassa?

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Not every champ can stack tear

I've built it on Orianna Syndra that don't have .1 second cooldowns. Buy a tear after Morello's.

... Also Rylais is still the AP best item in the game; who builds ROA outside of Kassa?

Mages that want to be tankier. Health AND mana in one item is a good option for either a first or 3rd item.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

And we used to have way more? 660 is shit compared to the 780-800 you could get before every single AP item in the game got nerfed.

Jorencice1 votes

Meh. Ap has been nerfed massively.

I used to be able to hit 1200 AP on my karthus build.

Now its MAX 850 ish.

That's a huge damage loss.

Basically karthus needs buffs.

Bunnymap1 votes

People complain about less ap, but it seriously doesn't make a difference. You still do a crap ton of damage, so stop complaining about it.

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