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How to buff Garen (Or other Champions) to the "Renekton Bar" in two easy steps.

Erijian·12/24/2014, 2:52:45 PM·1 votes·738 views

  1. Make his W go off of total armor and magic resist rather than bonus armor and magic resist once again. This isn't Season 3 anymore, tank itemization isn't broken on Garen now like it was back then.

  2. Adjust the Cooldown of his Ultimate to 120/110/100 or 120/100/80.

Bam, done. The Passive buff was a step in the right direction but was focused on Mid and Late game Garen, where in all actuality Garen struggles in the early levels even though he's supposed to excel at those times, (Due to low Armor per level, high CDs, and Judgment being extremely weak until Rank 3 but manageable at 2) His Ultimate has practically a global cooldown at Rank 1 for God knows why, while other Executes have it at least at 120. (His is 160 Rank 1) This gives his opponents more uptime in regards to their Ultimates and severely hinders him, even though both laners normally have an Ultimate that is to be used on a single target. His W going off of total armor/magic resist would be a basic QoL buff to help him build differently during the early game instead of being a normal copy/paste bruiser path. which you guys said you always wanted diversity in the game. Having his W go off of total stats instead of bonus would only increase his late-game totals by 14 Armor and 10 Magic Resist, which isn't huge whatsoever at those points and is worth maybe 480 in Gold not giving too much free stats,

Speaking of QoL, that 20% slow is seriously annoying and should be either removed completely or scale down as Judgment ranks up. It's just some random slap on the wrist that doesn't really do anything other than make it harder to stay on players while spinning, which can be annoying enough already. It's not needed by any means, but it'd be nice to happen.

Oh, and releasing Unprepared Garen would probably help too. Nudge nudge wink wink

The other champion parts are for you guys to come up with, it's more of a brainstorming thread to help out some of the melee champions that were promised updates a long time ago. Share your thoughts on what you think would help bring x to the so-called "Renekton Bar".

Somebody is downvoting all of the threads trying to help buff Garen, at least drop by and say hi.

12 Comments

BastionKross12/24/2014, 4:12:21 PM3 votes

Riot has said that the reason they made Garen's ult CD so high is because they don't want him killing you with it, going back, and then killing you with it again as soon as you both get back to lane. The problem is that it's not powerful enough to deserve that kind of CD compared to other execute ults. Back when there weren't many champions running around with an execution mechanic Garen's ult was something special, now not so much. Some possible ways to buff it:

  1. No more magic damage. Either make the damage physical so it can benefit from the armor pen Garen builds item 3035 item 3071 item 3142, or make it true damage just like Darius.

  2. Increased range. Garen is a melee champion with weak mobility. The greatest challenge of using his ult should be deciding how low the enemy has to be before using it, not trying to get close enough to actually use it.

  3. Give it a secondary effect like AoE damage or temporarily increased stats for Garen if he kills someone with it.

Darth Pixy Misa12/24/2014, 3:27:25 PM1 votes

Garen's AA animation is really slow too.

redniwediS12/24/2014, 7:01:16 PM1 votes

Right now Garen only needs to survive the early game. He doesn't really need to farm through it, he just needs to gather experience and not die. For this reason I've successfully handled lane swaps with bot lane as Garen, even picking up the rare double kill when my opponents get overconfident.

He's not supposed to be an early game champ, and hopefully will keep the majority of his strength in the mid game in the future.