Can Shaco have a Backstab indicator

Zerglinator·10/22/2015, 7:59:58 PM·215 votes·6,510 views

Now that we have Fiora's Vitals mechanic, we know there's a way to indicate where to hit a champ directionally. Can Shaco get an adapted one (turns with the champion, fits Shaco's thematics) so he has a clearer indication of how large the backstab area is, since he's not getting reworked and losing backstab anytime soon? If not, why?

59 Comments

Remlap122310/22/2015, 8:45:39 PM24 votes

They're giving him a bunch of QOL buffs come preseason I think. Most of it has to do with his clones, so yeah, I assume they're going to stick an indicator on it. If they don't rework him first.

I of course, am hoping for the latter because he's my least favorite champion to play against second only to Kalista.

Lafouboy10/23/2015, 9:21:50 AM12 votes

Shaco's indicator can be a little "Kick Me" sign on the back of his victims.

qetzel10/22/2015, 9:17:50 PM7 votes

I like the idea but it might not be so useful given that your target can turn instantly. It might not give enough useful information to be worth the visual noise.

I would like to put forward the option of finding out the area by mousing over backstab's icon. This would give a similar functionality without the problems made by fast movement.

Raid Boss Morde10/23/2015, 4:06:28 AM4 votes

Does he have an animation when he deals extra damage from Backstab? If not, how about a special VFX or something on the enemy you hit them with a Backstab?

Blood Mefist10/22/2015, 11:18:43 PM2 votes

This could also be nice for Cass, an indicator for how many people are actually facing her for her ult.

9kPluzZ10/23/2015, 3:26:29 AM2 votes

noun: back; plural noun: backs

the rear surface of the human body from the shoulders to the hips.

Or you can just hit that area...
The Ecdysiast10/23/2015, 3:47:02 AM2 votes

If this allows the enemy to see it, like Fiora's, for counterplay I agree.

If it's one of those things Shaco players want to make the champion who combines the least amount of stealthy know-how with the easiest way to gank undetected even easier to play with no drawback, then no.

JungHai010/23/2015, 3:59:57 AM2 votes

I've tried Shaco on free week before. I absolutely sucked on him, but one of my major complaints was always that I couldn't make use of backstab because I never knew where to attack to backstab. Also that it was hard to get behind things that aren't running away from you but that's a different story.

LithiumWednesday10/23/2015, 6:38:44 AM2 votes
Choaru10/23/2015, 2:41:51 PM2 votes

Mm I love when the first thing you see on the board is a discussion talking about your fav, champion :D

AbyssionKnight10/23/2015, 5:09:33 PM2 votes

I find it funny how many of the comments on this thread are just bitching about Shaco as a champion rather than dealing with the Merits of a QoL change for Shaco.

You might not enjoy the champion, but that doesn't mean 'unfun' champions should have terrible ui elements (or in this case, none at all).

Sporkie10/23/2015, 5:57:23 PM2 votes

I like this idea! I love Shaco, and it seems like a great QOL change for new and old shacos!

Noctius2810/23/2015, 9:18:43 AM2 votes

That depends, does it come with the much needed nerfs so he isn't incredibly toxic to play against?

Theorchero10/22/2015, 8:55:05 PM2 votes

I like this idea.

Killstrado10/22/2015, 8:57:15 PM2 votes

This is a great idea

kaltenashes10/22/2015, 11:12:01 PM2 votes

this would be nice, if i recall correctly they're going to give him a range indicator on his ult ...Finally =D

AbsorbedHorizon10/23/2015, 5:56:51 PM1 votes

Of course the week Shaco is free everyone is all over him. Leaving the real Shaco mains in the dust. :/

Mai Deadly10/23/2015, 6:25:16 PM1 votes

What I usually do when running away from Shaco I some what act like im kiting but not. i just try to face towards him every so often so it wont do so much damage

55120210/24/2015, 1:59:45 AM1 votes

And a visual update too, he need a VISUAL UPDATE!

VexingRaven10/24/2015, 6:26:31 AM1 votes

Speaking of backstab, can we revert the minion pathfinding change that made them turn to face you immediately rather than wait until their attack animation starts? This reduced his jungling to essentially dropping a box and attacking, rather than constantly moving to get behind creeps for the extra 20% damage. ANd let's face it, shaco's farming speed really needed that help especially if he got behind...

DeadPuddle10/24/2015, 12:44:29 PM1 votes

A backstab indicator would just be useless onscreen information in hud form. unlike for example kha'zix's isolated indicator you can already see an opponents back in game. there is no need to clarify this with a visual aid.

(as for removing it this would be one of those key champion aspects riot couldn't remove even in a redesign. the most they could do would be to change what backstabbing does)

Ipressbutton10/24/2015, 6:35:36 PM1 votes

This would be a good Quality of Life change when hes ganking, but I wonder if it would get too cluttered and distracting during teamfights (5 backstab indicators moving back and forth)

Olivaeus10/24/2015, 9:36:21 PM1 votes

As a Shaco main i'd love to see any kind of major rework on him to be honest.

His kit is fine as it is but I'd love to see an improvement on his late-game since he scales off so horribly when compared to other junglers such as Lee Sin or Gragas