riot could you atleast make it somewhat winnable when a fizz gets super fed?

Morgy Morgy·Apr 3, 2016·3 votes·534 views

at this point once a fizz gets 10 kills the game is over and there's no fucking coming back.

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PisdovApr 3, 20161 votes

what's the difference between a super-fed fizz or a zed, annie, tf, dianna, talon, ahri, cass, katarina, etc...? super-fed is just that...

Morgy MorgyApr 3, 20161 votes

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what's the difference between a super-fed fizz or a zed, annie, tf, dianna, talon, ahri, cass, brand, etc...? super-fed is just that...

but none of those champs can kill you with one ability and get out without taking any damage no, zed can not do that fizz presses r and unless you're tanky, you're dead if not from just the fucking ult, but from his followup damage and if he has to go in, he just presses e and gets out taking no damage

PisdovApr 3, 20161 votes

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but none of those champs can kill you with one ability and get out without taking any damage no, zed can not do that fizz presses r and unless you're tanky, you're dead if not from just the fucking ult, but from his followup damage and if he has to go in, he just presses e and gets out taking no damage

Yea, actually, that's exactly what Zed can do. Both of them have a "dash" to get onto target, both of them kill the target, and then "dash" out to safety. How is it different, exactly?

Morgy MorgyApr 3, 20161 votes

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Yea, actually, that's exactly what Zed can do. Both of them have a "dash" to get onto target, both of them kill the target, and then "dash" out to safety. How is it different, exactly?

zed's ult doesnt knock up everyone near the target dealing 1k damage that's my point

LoLKiruApr 3, 20164 votes

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what's the difference between a super-fed fizz or a zed, annie, tf, dianna, talon, ahri, cass, brand, etc...? super-fed is just that...

The biggest issue compared to all of those other champions, is that Fizz is extremely slippery due to his E having a relatively low cooldown once its maxed, along with the fact that he usually builds some form of CDR.

It can be pretty dam difficult to land anything of value on Fizz, whereas most of the examples you stated can still be shut down relatively easily.

I would honestly want them to replace E with an entirely different ability, so he can actually be more vulnerable at times, preferably something strong so fizz can maintain his viability despite having an even more vulnerable laning phase.

PisdovApr 3, 20161 votes

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The biggest issue compared to all of those other champions, is that Fizz is extremely slippery due to his E having a relatively low cooldown once its maxed, along with the fact that he usually builds some form of CDR.

It can be pretty dam difficult to land anything of value on Fizz, whereas most of the examples you stated can still be shut down relatively easily.

Zed isn't slippery? Ahri? Leblanc? Does Annie need to be slippery when she's nearly insta-gibbing your team with 2 spells? It's not a problem at all unique to Fizz. It's just what happens when a champion is fed.

And it's not even unique to assassin type characters. For instance, a super-fed tank is just as unstoppable, more-so in some instances. Almost any champion really fed is going to destroy the other team, that's just how league works.

LoLKiruApr 3, 20162 votes

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Zed isn't slippery? Ahri? Leblanc? Does Annie need to be slippery when she's nearly insta-gibbing your team with 2 spells? It's not a problem at all unique to Fizz. It's just what happens when a champion is fed.

And it's not even unique to assassin type characters. For instance, a super-fed tank is just as unstoppable, more-so in some instances. Almost any champion really fed is going to destroy the other team, that's just how league works.

Ahri and LeBlanc will probably die if you land anything of value on them as an AP mid, Zed is just as vulnerable if he doesn't have hexdrinker or maw.

That said, I feel its more frustrating to see on Fizz, if only because he doesn't even really need to be fed to do exceptionally well, and you die to him KNOWING that if he hadn't dodged your spell or auto with his E, he would be dead instead of you.

Alot of this is perception mind you, but Fizz's E is easily (for me anyway) one of the most frustrating abilities to deal with.

ZerfallenApr 3, 20161 votes

You could say the same thing for many champions. Just easier to see with assassin type champs Zed/Talon/Leblanc etc.

HongChongDongApr 3, 20161 votes

Well as a fizz main I can say this. He's a snowball AP assassin so of course he's going to carry once he gets fed but never fear there is a solution.

Atm AP is very vunerable to defensive stats and items more than AD so by simply getting your team to stack tank/off tank MR items and prevent from atleast getting 1 shot then you actually have hope.

If fizz fails to one shot his target he's most likely just dove the enemy team looking to kill the carry but has now failed to do so and has also most likely been forced to waste E and hourglass, if these things are all true then mopping him up is a walk in the park, the issue with this plan though is getting MR stacked on your team to make sure your damage dealer isn't getting one shot which is where you have to work hard to get to that point. a simple item 3156 item 3139 combo will give your carry enough anti magic burst to stay kicking, but if it still isn't enough you can get your support to build item 3190 .