Can we get a Katarina Rework

TitanAnteus·1/19/2019, 9:00:16 AM·5 votes·2,749 views

Her playstyle's really feast or famine. She's a melee champion with no real defensive options who's weak to CC that gets played mid. Other champions like Akali do what she does better, so her identity as a champion's in risk, and the twin blades motif of her character isn't capitalized on in her gameplay. Her kit doesn't work well in a team-orientated environment either so picking her is actually not fun for the rest of the team.

Give her to CertainlyT. I love his take on Akali and Mordekaiser. I think he'd be able to find a really fun playstyle for her that re-establishes her identity as a badass swordswomen that focus on speed over power.

I'm probably gonna get downvoted for saying what I said about CertainlyT anyway, so I'll add this. Morde doesn't need a rework as much as quite a few champs. I really hope you guys put off the morde rework to do the other champs first. I personally think Katarina is one of the champs that needs more attention then Morde.

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Míellá1/19/2019, 10:04:41 AM4 votes

I'll have to disagree with everything.

Her playstyle's really feast or famine. She's a melee champion with no real defensive options who's weak to CC that gets played mid.

First of all, she's an assassin and not a bruiser. Assassins need to have a high risk - high reward playstyle or we get champions like Akali. They're made to deal tons of damage but you need to use your brain to do it in the most efficent way. If you take the high risk part away, she will be another broken champion.

She gets played mid, cuz that's where she works best. You can play her in any role if you want to. Heck I played her in any role. She works just fine in all of them but is the best in mid/top.

Other champions like Akali do what she does better

Champs like Akali do it better than her, because champs like Akali are arguably broken.

Her kit doesn't work well in a team-orientated environment either so picking her is actually not fun for the rest of the team.

That's because she still is an assassin. Their job isn't to be a god in teamfights (which Katarina can be) but to kill the most important members of the enemy team and get out again. Katarina does an excellent job at that.

Give her to CertainlyT. I love his take on Akali and Mordekaiser. I think he'd be able to find a really fun playstyle for her that re-establishes her identity as a >badass swordswomen that focus on speed over power.

Don't give it to CertainlyT but to a guy who understands who Kata is. Kata isn't a "badass swordwoman which focuses on speed rather than power", but an assassin that is focusing on the most effective way to kill people. She is a heavily mobile and agile champ. She doesn't use sword, but daggers. It suits her character perfectly, because she focuses on being agile.

Give it to CT and she will be the next Akali, Kalista or w/e hard to balance champ exists made by him.

I personally think Katarina is one of the champs that needs more attention then Morde.

I personally think that Kata doesn't need more attention than Morde. She is in a good spot and the quality of life buff that she got was exactly what she needed. She felt way too clunky after the nerfs she received. Morde needs to get attention, because he is 1). outdated and 2). has way too many bugs. If he gets a rework, it will be a model update for one and two, it will be like the Nunu rework, where the essence is kept but he gets some stuff that makes him more satisfying to play.

King Lego1/19/2019, 9:19:41 AM2 votes

While I agree that Katarina needs a rework, I don't agree CT is the one who should rework her. Unless he doesn't work alone.

If he works alone, he will make Katarina toxic for the game itself.

Firebolt1/19/2019, 9:09:20 AM2 votes

While not necessarily the most deserving or highest priority of Champions that need a rework, I 100% agree. Because of her passive and high potential AoE damage, she'll never be balanced as she currently exists.

Honestly have no idea how they'll do it, but her daggers are way too telegraphed for the minimal reward they give (or rather, it feels pretty minimal as every CC ability on the planet just ruins her day). But pre-Assassin rework Katarina was annoying to play against too. They just need to find some middle ground and/or make her blink similar to Irelia's dash (i.e. allow her to reset it easier so she can go in and out of fights without just face-tanking damage).

King Lego1/19/2019, 9:33:29 AM1 votes

I'm a Vel'Koz main so yeah. Yasuo is a meme. But I always consider it a 50/50 so I don't underestimate and go 0/10.

One argument about his champs are they are fun to play as but unfun to play against. However, there's nothing wrong if they are complex but being overloaded with their own kits is just too far.

Most of his champs went through hell of changes (maybe Thresh is the most of all) even when released. The community from lowest to highest complain about his champs. Me included. Shame on me.

"I might be biased because I play them all though." Happens to all of us.

Syrile1/19/2019, 10:04:57 AM1 votes

I would agree that she needs a rework but unfortunately, if she gets one, she will be far more toxic. She will have about 90-120 dashes, four heals, each ability will have two passives and one active. Her passive will have multiple passives. Her ultimate will make her untargetable and give her true damage to everyone. And then she will teleport away while full-healing.

Maybe an exaggeration... but not by much?

Syrile1/19/2019, 2:01:20 PM1 votes

I mean.. I almost never lose to Yasuo, but I still think he is a toxic champion. In fact, my most killed champion last season was Yasuo. Probably because he is a nonsense champion and is picked at such an absurd rate. Like Ahri or Lux pick rates... Cept I ban Ahri because she is even more boring to face. Just play Malzahar and watch Yasuo dodge.

Aeroify7/19/2019, 7:25:18 PM1 votes

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Her playstyle's really feast or famine. She's a melee champion with no real defensive options who's weak to CC that gets played mid. Other champions like Akali do what she does better, so her identity as a champion's in risk, and the twin blades motif of her character isn't capitalized on in her gameplay. Her kit doesn't work well in a team-orientated environment either so picking her is actually not fun for the rest of the team.

Give her to CertainlyT. I love his take on Akali and Mordekaiser. I think he'd be able to find a really fun playstyle for her that re-establishes her identity as a badass swordswomen that focus on speed over power.

I'm probably gonna get downvoted for saying what I said about CertainlyT anyway, so I'll add this. Morde doesn't need a rework as much as quite a few champs. I really hope you guys put off the morde rework to do the other champs first. I personally think Katarina is one of the champs that needs more attention then Morde.

Disagree with everything you just suck at playing katarina