Ziggs has some more waveclear but his skillshots can be harder to hit, he has no hard CC, far less burst, and unreliable spells. His W is wonky and everything requries positioning and aiming. Lux's E is very easy to hit against enemies who don't have a dash. Zigg's ultimate also has massive delays when fired long distances away.
I think the nerf to Zigg's Q about the hitbox should atleast be reversed.
Sona Ping2 votes" Zigg's is completely outclassed by champions like Lux. " This is kind of an odd comparison to choose for your argument when Ziggs is outperforming Lux even after her buff and especially so before it.
Danyul Targaryen1 voteshe also has low mana cost spammable moves a gigantic aoe ult that fucks teams up and his w is hard cc. Lux has no hard cc. Ziggs is fine. He is a different champ with a diff playstyle
JafarThePanda2 votes[{quoted}](name=Danyul Targaryen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3eGGOgYk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-21T21:22:29.051+0000)
he also has low mana cost spammable moves a gigantic aoe ult that fucks teams up and his w is hard cc. Lux has no hard cc. Ziggs is fine. He is a different champ with a diff playstyle
ziggs's w is his only escape
extremely immobile and squishy
gg
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesFast tower pushing and insane waveclear gg
And nice job describing like all mages.
JafarThePanda2 votesFast tower pushing and insane waveclear gg
And nice job describing like all mages.
Unless he gets a blue buff you're not wave clearing more than once, and yeah, he sieges good, if he can get any items to boost his satchel execute, otherwise, he's useless.
Arakadia1 votesLux has a root? Zigg's W is not hard CC i think, its just a displacment. Lux's ult fucks teams up worse.
Danyul Targaryen1 votesLux has a root? Zigg's W is not hard CC i think, its just a displacment. Lux's ult fucks teams up worse.
a root is not hard cc look it up hard cc has to stop u from casting spells or stop channels a displacement does that. kNOW what ur talking about before u post
Arakadia1 votesOk so on terms I was wrong. But a two second root is far more powerful then a minor displacement. Especially sense her Q hurts alot more.
Danyul Targaryen1 votesOk so on terms I was wrong. But a two second root is far more powerful then a minor displacement. Especially sense her Q hurts alot more.
okay yes lux's 2 second 2 person root is more powerful than his displacemnt but he has diff strengths so play around them. I dread the day i have to lane a good ziggs so just be that good ziggs
legionnaire991 votes[{quoted}](name=Danyul Targaryen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3eGGOgYk,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2016-07-21T21:40:56.562+0000)
a root is not hard cc look it up hard cc has to stop u from casting spells or stop channels a displacement does that. kNOW what ur talking about before u post
Roots is hard cc or aumum wouldn't have any hard cc
BloodyTompon1 votesNot quite. Hard cc is generally considered to be where no player input action can be taken at all. Stuns, displacements, taunts, suppression and the like. Amumu has a stun on Q and a root/idk on R (I'm pretty sure they can not attack, but they can cast spells. Almost like a reverse silence. Not too certain about that though) Notably though, player input can still happen during R (spells), but cannot during Q.
khorney1 votesziggs main issue is his cost for mana on all his moves.