Passive effect's Attack speed bonus changed from [25%] to [20-35% based on target's level]. Passive changed from [attacks drain 25 health on-hit] to [attacks deal an additional 20 - 35 on-hit (based on target's level)]
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/09/914-pbe-update-eternal-sword-yi-chroma.html#more
BALDG1VEN BOOMER23 votesWell the healing mechanic is what made it pretty OP.
This will put Ardent in a decent spot without trashing the item.
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Well the healing mechanic is what made it pretty OP.
This will put Ardent in a decent spot without trashing the item.
I'm not sure I would want to build it now to be honest.
Yes, the healing mechanic made it kinda broken. Yes it deserved to get gutted.
It's the only thing I liked about the item though.
Fraggleroc1 votesI'm not sure I would want to build it now to be honest.
Yes, the healing mechanic made it kinda broken. Yes it deserved to get gutted.
It's the only thing I liked about the item though.
yeah it won't be a priority item for sure.
The main thing op about it was the drain's interaction with Athene's/heal+shield power. Now it's quite a pointless or later-game item except for its heal/shield bonus. Redemption will be priority buy again.
Daedric Etwahl2 votesI think Sona will still really like it since she can keep uptime on it constantly and on her whole team, benefitting all of her autoattackers, plus anyone else who weaves autos between their spells.
Shadow Hazard2 votesI would probably just go back to full ap sona after the change goes live.
Heroquet7 votesIt's still a great booster for some objectives (dragon / baron especially, since everyone attacks them).
Daedric Etwahl1 votesFair, but I'll definitely stick to my Sonambulance build and save AP for Sona mid.
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I think Sona will still really like it since she can keep uptime on it constantly and on her whole team, benefitting all of her autoattackers, plus anyone else who weaves autos between their spells.
Problem is you want it now only if you are laning with an ADC with low base AD and/or attack speed. Otherwise, it's late game.
You don't get an item in laning phase just because it benefits the whole team. You won't even be with the whole team during that phase.
Daedric Etwahl1 votesSure she might not rush it anymore, but it'll still be a great item on her most likely, lategame or no
Glory ln Death1 votesHonestly, it probably won't get picked up that much unless there are at least 2 dedicated auto-attackers on the team, or the ADC really likes attack speed.
Sire Hippington1 votesSo...as it should be?
Glory ln Death1 votesExactly.
Sire Hippington1 voteswell, it now goes back to it's intendet purpose: a niche item you get when you want to boost an AS/on-hit affine champ(like Kog) or can proc it reliably on multiple AA focused allies.
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well, it now goes back to it's intendet purpose: a niche item you get when you want to boost an AS/on-hit affine champ(like Kog) or can proc it reliably on multiple AA focused allies.
At least it's better against towers I guess.
Winterwings9 votesAs a Soraka main, all i can say is : "FINALLY!" (Yeah, i know... odd coming from someone who mains a champion that could abuse Ardent)
Now if they only brought Coin in line and made Spellthiefs a more enticing option for us Enchanter players who prefer to be a bit more active... Rito PLS [sg-soraka]
Ahris6 votesHealing portion made the item very overtuned. Glad it was removed.
HeresyHorus6 votesSad ...
[zombie-nunu-bummed]
could have been a balanced and very good item for ADCs who do DpS and not BpS, this change clearly tells that Riot wont look at Crit + attack speed scaling problem for a long time to come.
Instead they will nerf all Supports kits and items and reduce them back to the Ward Bots theu used to be in previous seasons cuz thier kits and items were lacking.
The Cancer Dancer 
combo will be more popular now and nothing will be solved except gutting Supports kits and items.
What is this shit ? ...
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Death by Glamour4 votesAtleast I can get t2 gold item and a sight stone now instead of rushing that silly item.
DarkRitual1 votesI can actually buy boots before 10 minutes now!
hhaavviikk3 votesso it basically got reverted, however what I don't like about this is that the on-hit damage doesn't matter once you reach late game, so 15-20 minutes and it's just the AS basically.
Violet Fields2 votesPBE....
Vayne's Q was gonna no longer crit and they scrapped that change.
Chembaron Yamada3 votesThey scrapped it again? Why? [sg-janna]
Blue Mystified2 votesby the time i get ardent censer on lulu my adc usually has some lifesteal and it doesn't make a game-breaking difference. if they don't, sure, but adding damage instead of life steal just gives adcs more damage.. is that what you guys really want? more damage > life steal on your enemy?
Winterwings3 votesYou're saying this as if you dont know that the "lifesteal" aka Health Drain mechanic it had previously was ALSO on-hit magic damage with the added benefit of healing ...
CrazyBigfoot282 votesThey should hotfix this change
Pika3101 votesLiterally none of this matters. Ardent Censor has not been and never will be built for anything other than the Windspeaker passive on it. They could remove everything else from the item and it would still be a good item.
Before Censor had Windspeaker, it was a gold sink; one of the worst items in the entire game. Its damage passive is nothing more than a noobtrap; very few champions can utilize it and no champions can use it effectively. Hell, it took players over a week to realize it wasn't even removed, when Censor gained Windspeaker. It's a non-factor; always has been, always will be. Rito just refuses to accept this FACT.
DrCyanide12 votesArdent Censor has not been and never will be built for anything other than the Windspeaker passive on it.
Someone didn't watch the LCS. Supports without heals or shields would take Stoneborn Pack to get a heal to use with Ardent Censer.
Pika3101 votesSo I guess we're just all going to ignore the fact that you didn't disprove anything I said.
"champs without heals brought Stoneborn for a heal" "Censor is only bought to strengthen heals"
I guess if you intentionally word something in a misleading manner, you can say whatever you want no matter how superfluous.
TheGoomyGamer11 votes??? He did disprove what you said. You said censer was only good because of windspeakers. He said people took stoneborn pact over windspeakers just to use ardent.
Pika3101 votesWtaf, how simplistic must I make what I'm saying for you sheeple to understand my words? I am talking about the Windspeaker passive ON THE FUCKING ITEM. Not the actual keystone "Windspeaker." It is painfully obvious to anyone with a brain, but apparently that organ seems to be missing from the posters in this board.
This is exactly what happens when a forum has ZERO moderation.
TheGoomyGamer1 votesWell, next time try to be more specific. Windspeakers can be interpreted as the heal on-hit procing windspeakers blessing (IDK if that works). Don't use the term 'windspeakers' when the actual passive on the item isn't called windspeakers - just say heal/shield power. Yur wording was very confusing and easily misinterpretable, so don't act as if we have no brains because we assumed that 'windspeakers' reffered to the keystone actually called 'windspeakers' as opposed to a unique passive that isn't called windspeakers and has nothing to do with the word windspeakers. Nowhere in LOL is Heal/shield value reffered to as Windspeakers.
Glory ln Death3 votesI assume you're talking about the +heal/shield power when you say "Windspeaker's". And, no, that is not the reason it is such a dominant item. The on-hit healing is what made it a must buy item - take that away, and it's still viable and even strong on certain supports, but it won't be giving ADCs +50 health per second in a fight to keep them full health indefinitely.
These changes will significantly lower Ardent's priority to a second or third item, rather than a non-optional first item. It will also push the meta away from Enchanter supports being the priority choices for support and allow supports who can't use Ardent effectively to see more play.
Pika3101 votesThank you for being the only logical & intelligent response to my post. This is very close to what I was trying to explain to the sheeple, I'm glad you're capable of individual thought. Have an upvote for my gratitude.
Thefrostyviking1 votesoh gawd this is going to be so OP with rageblade.
Glory ln Death2 votesHow?
Thefrostyviking2 votesRageblade procs on hit effects twice, meaning the more on hit you have the more gold efficent rageblade becomes.
It's like the rabadon of on hit builds.
Some champs like Kog, kayle and maybe yi will definately benefit a lot from this x)
Glory ln Death3 votesI mean... It has the same on-hit damage as 2 patches ago, and the combo was strong on a few champs like Kog, but not "so OP". Plus, now that it doesn't have the on-hit healing, it will make the combo quite a bit weaker than before, since immobile champs like Kog won't be healing without getting sustain items with their own gold.
Thefrostyviking1 votesHasn't it had the healing waaaay longer than 2 patches?
And most kogs i know would build botrk first at any rate O-o Sustain was never a problem to us.
Glory ln Death1 votesYeah, it's had the healing for quite a while. The point is, it had the same damage as on the PBE up until the nerfs about 2 patches ago (20-35 based on level was reduced to the flat 25 that we currently have). The combo wasn't "so OP" before the damage got nerfed, so why will it be "so OP" when the damage goes back? Especially without the free sustain?
Thefrostyviking1 votesWasn't the item quite a bit more expensive as well back when it had on hit damage the last time around?
Being cheap and adding ...25 extra damage per shot and 50 every other with rageblade is going to be noticeable i think.
I mean, it's nearly a on hits item like wits end or nashors tooth worth of damage, added with the attackspeed you get.
Is it really so strange to think that this would be quite the deal O-o?
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Thefrostyviking1 votesYeah i realized x)
Glory ln Death1 votesOk, that's what I thought. You are misunderstanding Ardent's passive.
Ardent currently already has on-hit damage. It isn't something new being added on. On live servers, it deals 25 on-hit damage and heals for 25 on-hit.
This isn't Riot removing healing and replacing it with damage - Ardent already has both. Healing is being removed, and the damage is being adjusted to the previous strength.
Thefrostyviking1 votesoh O_o
I missed that part.
Nevrankroaton1 votesI think it will create possible some problematic with Kogmaw and his friends but they will have time to tune the damage after hand if it come out of control. Honestly, it was the best choice, it will obligate ADC to invest gold in sustain and therefore make them rush crit WITHOUt having the sustain coming with it.
That and possible 'anti shield' item should calm down whiners.. I mean juggernaut/assassin main.
Glory ln Death4 votesHow will removing the healing make Kog'maw a problem?
Nevrankroaton1 votesIt is not about removing the healing, it is more like gaining on-hit damage. Think of kogmaw buying wit end while support rush ardent, he will gain a VERY VERY good powerspike early on.
Glory ln Death3 votesYou realize that Ardent has always given on-hit damage, right? And that Kog'maw's meta build for the past few patches has been him rushing Rageblade and/or Wit's End if he has an Ardent support?
Removing the on-hit healing means he can't rush those items because he won't have any sustain, which is a huge weakness for an immobile ADC like Kog.
