ty riot

KennysDreamGirl··4 votes·1,326 views

you accomplished what you wanted, role diversity. its not hard to achieve that when you just go and kill one of the roles. I haven't played any marksman yet and I tend to be the guy that thinks changes aren't as bad as people say but holy shit. the boards are saying theyre unplayable (not a reliable source but its still there) ive seen several youtube vids that have said theyre dead and pros are playing bruisers and mages bot. congrats riot, you killed the only role I could say im good at just to appease those few people that wanted to play yasuo in bot or something. I get mad at riot a lot but this I am genuinely upset with. marksman is how I started in league. its the only role I can play effectively and climb with, now all that is gone. Ive been practicing mid but I still dont get how to play a lot of the matchups yet and top there is only like one champion that I can comfortably play there. I suck at jungle too but I guess I should leanr it since theres a couple hamps there I like. go ahead and downvote that "salty adc main that deserves to have his champs useless". no, thats not balance, if the only way to get other champs to be viable in a role is to destroy the champs already played in that role that will ruin the game more

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sweetrules4 votes

Oh no, they toned down crit based damage, whatever shall we do. Sorry, but damage needs to be lowered across the board. The game has become a pick the champs with the most consistent burst capabilities this year. The problem isn't that crit-based ADC's are no longer over-performing, it's that they are finally where they should be, but the other groups are still doing too much.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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Oh no, they toned down crit based damage, whatever shall we do. Sorry, but damage needs to be lowered across the board. The game has become a pick the champs with the most consistent burst capabilities this year. The problem isn't that crit-based ADC's are no longer over-performing, it's that they are finally where they should be, but the other groups are still doing too much.

LOL Ikr he is like "oh noes" im not broken anymore

i mean sure... to him starting last year.. he has never known adc to be in any state OTHER than completely broken

im sorry u have never experienced the game when it was good, knowing riot.. u never will.

but at least we have 1 less broken thing

sweetrules1 votes

Yeah, I've been playing since season 3. Season 8 is power-creep incarnate. Which is really out of place in a MOBA. The fact the game is pretty much decided in the first 10-15 minutes by whoever has the most kill pressure is pretty fucked.

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

who said I started last year? I started mid season 5

SwiftKitten881 votes

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who said I started last year? I started mid season 5

your profile does? the account your are posting on has only been active since july last year.

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

well thats not true, I started in s5. it was months before jhins release

Zeyd3 votes

Agreed man, Riot didn't nerf "A few Adc Champs" They almost completely ruined the concept of a ranged ad carry. It's ridiculous and the nerfs went much too far. They absolutely need to make this right before a lot of people just leave the game forever.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

I haven't played any marksman yet and I tend to be

so basically you didnt even play them since this patch, just watched a couple whiney youtube videos and are now 100% convinced that the class is dead, and youre spreading that half assed information. even put the efford in to write an entire rant.

you are aware, that most youtubers are drama queens and blow everything out of proportion, because they want to generate clicks on their videos, because theyre making a living off how many people watch their shit?

there are also adc mains and pros who said they like the changes, and like the thought of being able to play mages and fighters in the duo lane. marksmen arent dead, but have to get used to the new matchups and the idea of sharing their lane with other classes.

VoraciousX2 votes

http://na.op.gg/champion/statistics Look at the bot lane tab. It's an overreaction.

Marshbouy2 votes

There is not "bot lane tab." There is only the "ADC" tab, which only appears to display ADCs. That doesn't make it a great assessment of the bot lane meta, but from the stats I'm seeing it doesn't seem like most ADCs are completely struggling.

People are just being dramatic.

VoraciousX1 votes

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There is not "bot lane tab." There is only the "ADC" tab, which only appears to display ADCs. That doesn't make it a great assessment of the bot lane meta, but from the stats I'm seeing it doesn't seem like most ADCs are completely struggling.

People are just being dramatic.

Yeah, it says "ADC tab, but you know it only says that because generally mostly ADCs are played there. They'd add any champion played in that role. But yeah, mainly only the pure right clickers are struggling and people haven't given this patch enough time to see what works and what doesn't. Everybody's buying Stormrazor first item on champs who shouldn't want to use it for example. For example when Last Whisper was last total penetration instead of bonus armor penetration, it used to be an earlier bought item(Third I believe), and it's still hardly bought after it's basically been reverted.

Zeyd2 votes

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LOL Ikr he is like "oh noes" im not broken anymore

i mean sure... to him starting last year.. he has never known adc to be in any state OTHER than completely broken

im sorry u have never experienced the game when it was good, knowing riot.. u never will.

but at least we have 1 less broken thing

       It's so sad, literally all of you have no idea what you're talking about. Adc win rates are only decent because people are still trying to make them work. People pick marksman because it is what they are comfortable with and someone literally has to win every game. A more accurate measure would be win rates of bruisers bot lane vs standard ads. This is because the problem currently with Adc is not it doesn't stomp lane stomp game. It's that it's agency in any game is legitimately the least in the game of every role. Such that the entire concept of a ranged marksman itself is nigh unviable. The nerfs were far to serious and, fortunately, riot seems to be realizing this if you look at the dev corner. Moreover, the notion that ADC was ever "Broken" is legitimately imbecilic. Adc was always meant to be a glass cannon. It does the most damage, rightfully, because you can kill it the easiest. The problem around ADC was that supports have always been judged by how large their shields are and power creep, in order to make support satisfying, ended up blowing their power level out of proportion IE Making Adcs unkillable. 
        Ironically, if you look at most high elo games, many games are now decided by junglers running around with, ironically, way to much damage and a bunch of lulu/janna/soraka buffs. In short, it has never been about the actual Adc.

     In fact, it's legitimately disgusting that any of you are flaming him. Your argument is entirely founded on faulty logic and "Statistics". Most of your argument is derived from watching far too much Hashinshin, and, believe me I checked because I was bored, all of you are silver or lower with one exception. So please, don't talk like you have any legitimate experience or expertise on which your argument is based.

Good Talk,

[zombie-brand-clap]

kaironen1 votes

You can still play lane bully adcs but crit adcs are all crying in the corner. My whole adc champion pool just got crushed this patch, I can probably still play in my current rank even if I only really played crit adcs but crit adcs themselves are barely playable. I hope they fix crit itemization soon and maybe adc base stats because having 3 separate nerfs on crit adcs that were all meaningful completely destroyed them.

I also am not a fan of the whole crit changes to make them more into tank killers due to the true dmg from ie because it just forces all of them into being niche picks. It currently feels like I do too much damage on tanks right now and not enough on assassins. Then again, I haven't played much crit adcs this patch and I started playing Lucian/ezreal/draven (all of the games I have played are on my alternate account so that's the reason I have barely played any games last few months).

AR URF1 votes

Oh great, another thread where you pick on yasuo just to get up-votes.

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