I'm actually kinda pissed riot hotfixed sunfire so quickly

Minimac2000·2/21/2020, 7:31:12 AM·1 votes·2,735 views

Like seriously? Tanks haven't been playable in forever. They finally get a noticeable playability buff. Boom nerfed back to pretty much pre-buff levels less than 24 hours after release. Meanwhile vayne and cass still get to play top and bully the ever living shit out of literally everyone that doesn't counterpick with another ranged champ. Just seriously either actually fix the things that are broken about this lane already, or let tank players have broken shit like everyone else for as long as you've ignored all the other crap.

To be fair, I didn't play today, so I don't know actually how bad it was. But ornn, the only actually strong tank, barely broke 52% wr and sona is still 61% wr so I'd say it couldn't have been that broken that they had to basically half the buff

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RavenMagus2/21/2020, 9:04:39 AM7 votes

Because the really fun thing about facing a tank is when they walk back into lane with Bami's Cinder and assassinate you.

Buffing tank damage was stupid and I wish they could come up with any other way to buff things than adding more damage.

vgamedude2/22/2020, 3:01:45 AM4 votes

It's hilarious there are frequently ADCs with astronomical pickrates and high winrates and never get nerfed but tanks aren't allowed even a few weeks of goodness. Really telling

only zhule2/21/2020, 8:52:03 AM4 votes

From what i hear it was less "this tank item is too good" and more "this tank item is too good, on Ornn "

Thefrostyviking2/21/2020, 11:44:40 AM3 votes

Because it was a really damn stupid buff.

More damage for tanks? So the class that was supposed to be gated by their weaker early and lack of damage relative to other melee gets more damage? Essentially helping to mitigate their only weaknesses?

How was this supposed to actually improve the game´s health at all? Furthermore tanks right now are not bad at all and there is even one that is considered a top tier pick being Ornn.

Lets look at Diamond winrates for some tanks in different lanes.

##Toplane

  • Poppy : 53% winrate
  • Singed : 53% winrate.
  • Ornn : 52% (very high pickrate unlike the rest)
  • Malphite : 52%
  • Shen : 51.5%
  • Maokai 50%
  • Cho : 50%.

So in the toplane alone we have 7 tanks being either great or at least viable with little effort, and more if we consider that mains will have higher winrates.

##Jungle

  • Rammus : 55%
  • Zac : 54%
  • Nunu : 53%
  • Amumu : just short of 50%

Here we also have at least 3 really amazing tank and a alright one but jungle right now is notoriously harsh in terms of what it demands from the champions you want to play there, if you wana succeed as a tank here you are gona have to at least semi main it but if you do it should not be too hard.

I personally like to play Sejuani in here sometimes and my last few games on her were quite successful, despite her terrible winrates right now.

##Support

Thresh : 52% Blitz : 54% Taric : 51% Leona : Just short of 50%

Notably there is a support tank with a high pickrate but also a bad winrate, Nautilus.

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So my overall impression of someone saying tanks as a whole are bad with the above in mind?

Someone is either playing one of the truly weak tanks and saying that all tanks are weak or they are playing one of the good ones and failing......both options seem to indicate the person in question has their head buried in the sand and are unwilling to look at the overall picture and instead are taking the easy way out.

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Dont be like this :(

SiG DxD2/21/2020, 1:29:13 PM2 votes

true , i wonder base on what they nerfed ... because they didnt have 1 week of data or something to calculate what to do next

Lucian Waifu2/21/2020, 5:02:03 PM2 votes

I like the fact that sunfire Lissandra is now a thing. Is it good for game balance? Probably not but I can play my favorite champion and not feel like I am playing down against most champions now.

Duskdemon2/21/2020, 5:14:37 PM1 votes

I think the real issue that not enough people are talking about is that the meme about riots anger to there being to much damage in the game is not to buff durability, but to add more damage.