Would it be neat if Cait's ult was global? Or would it just be busted af?
I am reminded of Karthus ult here. He doesn't even need vision on people to finish them off, but there is plenty of time to avoid it. It would be the same case with Cait ult, except it can be blocked. Seems like it would be a neat idea to me.
Edit: I hardly play Cait at all, but I feel like this would really bring the sniper feel to life.
Defended2 votesI feel like Jhin completely took caitlyns ''sniper'' theme.
Electric Buyers2 votesYeah, I just love how people are downvoting this like it wouldn't be balanced.
Miraweave5 votes[{quoted}](name=Electric Buyers,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3M0Wic9N,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-06-24T23:12:17.631+0000)
Yeah, I just love how people are downvoting this like it wouldn't be balanced.
It wouldn't be balanced. It would be completely fucking broken and cait would be pick/ban.
Electric Buyers2 votesHow exactly?
Hellpyre2 votesKarthus had one of the highest cooldowns in the game, as well as some of the worst scaling on a nuke ult of any champion in the game. The reason for that is because global range is extremely valuable.
In the case of Caitlyn, consider what happens to the laning dynamic. Unless someone is there to take the bullet, Cait can ult from base to force a kill through. In addition, she could provide vision on anyone as they tried to escape for 3 seconds, with no real restriction. It would have to be nearly gutted for short to medium ranges for the long-range ult to be allowed. Just upping the range and keeping in the same ballpark of damage/CD would be hideously broken.
Electric Buyers4 votesNow this is the constructive type of shit I am talking about. Thank you, jesus people, is a little thought so hard to ask?
But those are some great points you made, and I appreciate the intelligent post. Keep doing you dude, if the community was just a bunch of you's, by god it would be an alright place.
RogueWill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Archangel Avacyn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3M0Wic9N,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-24T23:24:34.588+0000)
It wouldn't be balanced. It would be completely fucking broken and cait would be pick/ban.
Honestly it wouldn't change much, you still need vision to activate the ult so you still woudl need some sort of external way to provide said vision. You still woudl have enough time to block it since it has a cast time and a travel time.
JustMonika131 votesI feel like Jhin completely took caitlyns ''sniper'' theme.
I mean, even Riot stated that Caitlyn wasn't fitting the sniper theme they were hoping for somewhere in the Jhin Pre-release pages or something . I can't find it, nor do I feel like it.
Jhin's ult has the complete sniper feel, the fact that it's a skillshot feeds even more into this. Cait's a homing projectile that doesn't get the zoom out, for that dramatic feel.
Ralanr2 votesIt's a targeted ability. If you had vision on a lone target (like someone who was about to win a 1v1 fight) then you could snipe them for the kill and they couldn't do anything about it. Sure you could say the same about Karthus, but he affects five targets, so he has to decide whether to use his ult to get one kill, or to wait for a better opportunity.
There is a reason most global ults are not lock on abilities.
Styre Storm2 votesTo be honest, I even feel more like a sniper with Jinx than with Caitlyn - I mean, what feels better than seeing enemy low health, predicting their movement and shooting your giant rocket between others and, BOOM, the perfect snipe baby~!
But still:
Now watch this:
You see enemy on top lane, low health, perfect target for your ult. You position yourself in safe distance from the enemies, and there are two outcomes:
So you want to ask me why it feels unfair compared to for example Jinx/Ezreal's ult?
On the other side, Caitlyn's ult targets the enemy. He will be marked, and the bullet will go on, and on and on, until it will hit the enemy Champion. Unless you can become untargetable or someone blocks it for you, you are marked as dead.
-- It may be a thing for the "sniper wet dream", but as the day goes on, look at yourself. How would you enjoy being marked for death, without any chances to escape? You can't heal in time, you can't recall, you can't avoid this. Only someone else may save your life, but that works only IF there is someone to sacrifice himself for your own good.
Oh, wait a second, I just made myself laugh so hard. I mean come on guys, going into for example ranked and expecting a random dude to take a bullet for you? Am I the only one who instantly laughs at this?
While we're talking about Caitlyn's position as Attack Damage Carry, she is pretty strong right now. Her range, 650, is the longest range of marksman from the level 1(Tristana gains range based on level up to 669 lv18, Jinx 700 with Fishbones max Q level, Twitch 850 with ult - but it's not the base-base aa range). With maximum range headshot, Caitlyn has the range of 1300, and while using Runaan's, she can send three bullets over more than double the distance of the typical's adc's aa range.
While at it, her power comes mostly from carefully placed traps, that give her the control over an area. She definitely gives off the vibe of "Perfect and I-Had-This-All-Planned Sheriff of Piltover" with this.
Though her Q is kinda lust-lacking unless you hit it while enemy stands in Yordle Snap Trap.
The idea of the Ace in the Hole being global ultimate is as unfair as MMR in some cases of ranked games.
You can also compare it to the new game mode, Nexus Siege! As you may already know, there's a thing called "Obliterator", used only by Defending team. "The Obliterator will kill all enemies in all lanes. All of them." So if you won't get out of the range of "Obliterator", you're dead. It would be the same thing for the Ace in the Hole. You can't get someone to block it for you? You-are-done-for.
Big congratulations to the ones that were able to read it all!
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesno
IcyPepper1 votesPlease no.