So those quinn changes rito wants to do...

RottedApples··2 votes·728 views
Quinn PBE Feedback Thread

Initial reactions mind you. but does anyone else feel like this will ruin quinn.

based on reading through the thread i've noticed several things that worry me.

Valor basically only exists to make quinn go fast, he doesn't fight at all. Valor also can't be used as an escape because of the ult channel time. the blind is gone her passive cd goes down with her crit chance, a stat you may not even get much of depending on your build. she is apparently being intended for mid lane with the same range and less safety as before (Although the e is supposedly being slightly more reliable. Apparently she will be bursty, but without the ult sending you in I'm worried she might lose out on assassination targets/potential because she won't be able to jump in melee range and her ult is no longer an execute.

I'm not a quinn main but I do really like playing her from time to time and i'm worried that my preferred way of playing her (top quinn) is basically being ruined by these changes.

initial thoughts?

8 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Bot lane Quinn is done completely with these changes. Tag team can be interrupted if you take champ damage. Yep. The whole thing, not just bonus MS. She will only maybe see play anywhere because she will be new, but after that, unless she is insanely overtuned, no one is going to play her, even dedicated Quinn mains because of how much they changed

GonnaKayleMyself2 votes

can confirm. Quitting game because of these changes.

Puynsi2 votes

Quinn was a failure on launch since you went all allah ackbar on the other team and pray you wouldnt get deleted, any change will be good for her.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Yeah, if you were stupid and though it was a good idea to jump on the whole team.

The changes they made have pretty much ruined her

Shosuko2 votes

I'm not confident about the Q getting the execute and the vulnerable mark. I think it's a bit confusing as to which is better. Do I save it for extra damage? Or do I vulnerable the champ to get more damage from the auto trigger? I think it is a real concern of unclear optimization.

I think perhaps just removing the execute, and adding the blind back, at least on the primary target. Since she has to dash IN to dash OUT, unlike other ranged champs, she needs a bit more security when she dashes in. I feel the blind gave her this.

I do like her getting 2 ways to add a mark on a target. This means less luck and a stronger combo.

The new ult does look cool, because it has no cd. You channel 2 seconds and go where you please-es. Without a CD this means she can quickly roam to assist another lane or jungle, or return from base really quick. Homeguards + Ult gets her to the mid turret before home guards wears off... That's sick. I can't wait to see the new animation of Valor carrying her.

I wonder if the ult attack can be complete re-worked into something different. Being that she's not melee, it makes very little sense to have a self based aoe effect, especially one with low damage. Perhaps what she can get is a completely new, and logical end of ult effect. Maybe they can have Valor target the first player she attacks and slow them, or maybe she can get a small push back from where she lands.

The biggest change I'd like to see on her is actually not a change in abilities, as much as I'd like her auto attacks to be more responsive. I don't like seeing the projectile leave my character, and still cancel the projectile... Also her passive vulnerable mark could be smoother. I'd like to see the vulnerable actually take effect a bit quicker after it's marked. When I see it appear I often attack too quickly, potentially losing my opportunity to proc it.

edit - to address your comments.

I really don't care that they're removing the ult valor swap. To me this part always made the least sense of her kit, and the change in abilities was awkward. I always played her as a bot lane adc. I wouldn't mind her getting a push that maybe let her jungle like Kindred though! Jungling marksman is something I definitely want. Twitch too.

Big Lincoln2 votes

i would prefer her ult still allowing her to move while she waits for valor to pick her up

i'm curious to play these before i say anything solid, but i'm a mix of worried and excited

NavyDivea1 votes

Its odd but lets see hot it plays out. Do note your could get 3 passive procs with this new set up, which is pretty damn strong.

undoingduck1 votes

I just played Quinn for the first time since the changes went live and I'm so livid that they destroyed this champion. What the hell were they thinking!?

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