A QQ for Kindred thread.

I've kept my mouth shut about this for a while now since I realized the balance team decided they didn't want to work on Kindred anymore. That's perfectly fine.

For the most part Kindred was in a "respectable" spot. You'd still get flamed and raged at for picking her . . . you'd still lose games if you had any other jungler you would have won. But, you could still consistently pull a 60% wr as a main. There are still a lot of clunkiness to her kit that could be changed . . . but that's a topic for another day.

What currently aggrivates me is that yet again another adc has replaced Kindred for ranged jungle and is superior in every way. He may not be T1, and I personally think a lot of meta junglers can beat him . . . but for all intents and purposes he's blatantly better than Kindred. And that's

You might ask, "Well what makes you say that." Well, there's a list.

For starters:

1. Kindred requires 8 stacks to have the same level of extra attack speed that Ezreal can obtain . . . at level 1. This escalates to a wopping twelve stacks at level 12-13. That's all fine and dandy . . . but the avg stacks for a snowballing Kindred . . . is 7. Against a reasonable team that's all you'll really pull. So rightr from the get go Ez clears faster and has a better AS steroid than Kindred + higher base AS scaling.

2. One of the biggest upsets I have is that the balance team swears Kindred will be too good if given + 2 armor. Yet, guess what . . Ezreal has 2 more base armor than her in exchange for 100 HP at LEVEL 18. At level 1 she has 50 more HP. This isn't actually all that good though because the 50 HP becomes irrelevant as early as level 3 when ganks start popping off. So, Ezreal always has the edge against all fights. Especially since he fits triforce into his kit which gives him around 180 more HP than Kindred later on anyways. So, he has more armor + more health than her. He also has more mana, and mana regen and only one less health regen.

3. Clears faster + isn't blatantly nerfed to make early game hard for "late game identity." Ezreal hits harder and faster.

To give you a rough idea of how bad it has gotten. Almost every single Kindred main ((excluding myself)) in the diamond range have basically tossed Kindred to the side in exchange for "The superior Kindred." The only Kindred player I can think of that actually plays Kindred . . . is Dodge Lamb. Otherwise all of us mains have discarded her because there's no reason to actually play her.

So, here we are . . . yet again . . . with yet another ADC doing Kindred's role, and they can virtually go anywhere and do well while Kindred suffers anywhere BUT the jungle.

I personally wish you guys would get rid of Kindred's "potential late game" fantasy for a more consistent game play. The stacks can be fun, and the idea of "being powerful" later can "possibly be fun." But as it is . . . Kindred is too weak early on, and the worst part is the rune changes that are coming next season are going to make her even weaker.

This is actually become such a meme that I cannot play Kindred in diamond ELO without someone from my team deliberately running it down because I picked her. just to keep from demoting down to D5 I had to discard Kindred simply because nobody wants her on a team. This champion needs a quality of life buff fast.