Has anyone reached honor level 3 or higher yet?

Hadfield·Jul 8, 2017·99 votes·45,660 views

Just curious to know since I can't see my own progression.

EDIT: Forgot to add a poll, but hey apparently there's this thing called Strawpoll so go ahead! http://www.strawpoll.me/13394205/r

177 Comments

Nami Want SalamiJul 8, 2017131 votes

Day 632: Still honor 2, food and water supplies low

PaladinNOJul 8, 201719 votes

Day 1019: The zombies are at our door.

Not nude zombies, luckily. ^^

AMYS GRAVEJul 8, 201757 votes

_Not nude zombies, unluckily. _

Sraeg2013Jul 9, 201735 votes

http://66.media.tumblr.com/761bc00db5105ef750a7e55569dd46ed/tumblr_mq5mexaova1rvzdzso1_400.gif

hugemikeJul 9, 20173 votes

Thank you for this!

Sraeg2013Jul 9, 20173 votes

Words of appreciation?

For me?

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KairoptraJul 9, 20171 votes

I know I've seen that character before, but I can't for the life of me remember her name or the show she's from. Would you please remind me?

SpecterVonBarenJul 9, 20173 votes

~~Zombie Romanticism~~, very good series, it'll eat your heart out.

EDIT: Sorry guys, I got my series mixed up, as SRAEG2013 said below me, the series is Sankarea.

Sraeg2013Jul 9, 20173 votes

I don't know what "Zombie Romanticism" is, but I'm 110% sure the manga and anime is called "Sankarea".

KairoptraJul 9, 20172 votes

it'll eat your heart out

Wait.... WAS THAT A ZOMBIE JOKE?!

SpecterVonBarenJul 9, 20175 votes

Hhm.... It might be a joke, though maybe not what you think it's of.

NaramielJul 8, 201776 votes

It's entirely reasonable for levels to take a while to get... but I do think they're sabotaging their own system a bit by not having any visible progress. Humans need to get pellets now and again or they won't keep pushing the lever.

Beas7ieJul 8, 20174 votes

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It's entirely reasonable for levels to take a while to get... but I do think they're sabotaging their own system a bit by not having any visible progress. Humans need to get pellets now and again or they won't keep pushing the lever.

That and you can only honor person per game so even if you have a great game and everyone does well, you can still not receive any honor if your teammates think you're "Second Place".

ModCaptainMårvelousJul 8, 201719 votes

Considering honor is meant to be a season-wide thing and there are only 5 levels (Technically 6 if you count 0 honor), it makes sense that honor is extremely slow to get. Not to mention how often you're honored/reported.

SchàdenfreudeJul 8, 201745 votes

Unfortunately, you avoided the point he made about how there is no visible progress for honor.

ModCaptainMårvelousJul 8, 201720 votes

I really don't have anything to say to that other than "Yeah I want that too".

It kinda baffles me that you ("You" being Riot) give this giant, long grind to honor and don't include any sort of metric to follow it.

MrryZJul 9, 20177 votes

They've already answered why they don't have any measurable progress to the next honor level in several posts already. Short answer is that honor should be something players automatically achieve, not something they should be grinding just to get to the next level for a reward.

Links: Riot Marauder explaining it better than I: https://i.gyazo.com/8e5b66e5066b8f78e286b2b5fe106496.png

And then for some reason Riot decided to look into creatinga progress bar anyway I guess?: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/lpq45AEQ-possible-honor-xp-bar

At any rate I don't think they'll be implementing one.

ElikainJul 9, 201729 votes

I personally don't think we should have a progress bar for honor. Simply because then people would grind for it. Honor is not meant to be a grind, it's meant to be season long sportsmanlike conduct. The last thing i want out of this system is that people start begging for getting honored before the game ends so that they could get their levels because they're close to something.

Screw that, i say. I skip honoring people sometimes entirely as i don't personally believe they deserved it. And that should also be a possibility. I don't want to feel pressured or bothered into giving honors to people that didn't deserve them just because they want those levels.

Here's the deal: level 2 is basically what he had before the honor. Anything above and we get sweet loot in terms of honor capsules and loading screen borders, anything below and we get less loot or don't get any (level 0). Getting punished also drops our level and locks honor for a time until we reform.

CaveslothJul 9, 201711 votes

They are grinding for it now lols. So not having progress bar is stopping them? Thats kinda asinine. Your argument is cart then horse.

Will they get bored and stop? Probably. But those "fake" people would have probably stopped sooner if they saw how long its gonna take with a progress bar.

Salty Jhin MainJul 9, 20171 votes

I personally don't think we should have a progress bar for honor. Simply because then people would grind for it. Honor is not meant to be a grind, it's meant to be season long sportsmanlike conduct. The last thing i want out of this system is that people start begging for getting honored before the game ends so that they could get their levels because they're close to something.

Ya serious? People are grinding the shit out of honor right now, including me :3 . We don't need to see a progress bar, but it would help to fucking see one!

ElikainJul 9, 20173 votes

##I think we need to define the terms "grinding" and "intended use" of the Honor system.

Grinding would mean devoting your time, effort and skill more than usual into getting honored by teammates. And what's exactly wrong about that? Honor is supposed to be used in that way and since the votes are limited (1 per person), you can only get honored a limited number of times. If you're getting them, someone else isn't and vice versa.

If you're grinding for honors, then you're clearly putting time and effort into grinding out quality and sportsmanlike games by the numbers. People aren't stupid and even if you pester them to honor you, they don't have to do that. So the only way you can truly guarantee you're going to be on their list of people to honor is if you're fitting in into the honor categories, for many many games (months).

Intended use of the system in this case only refers to playing a few good quality games. As opposed to grinding, it's a more relaxed and "no rush" approach to acquiring honor without spending so much time on it.

Both ways are legitimate uses of the system. And it doesn't really matter if you're faking this or not. Since the progress is intentionally being made to be a half-season to season long "grind", only the most patient players who fake it would probably persevere on false pretenses. The rest of people who "fake it" would likely realize they can play the game without tilting the fuck out of every single game and ruining it for everyone else. So in the end, the Honor System also teaches players a valuable lesion as well.

It's specifically made to be hard to abuse with trying to fish for honors as the votes are limited and players can choose who to honor and who not to honor. An individual doesn't really have the power to threaten or force someone to honor them.

MonkeyMadnessJul 9, 20174 votes

The fact that getting reported hurts your honor progression is bullshit. People troll report and report for things that are frankly childish. Riot needs to address the victim society they have created with their current player behavior system, as it now has the ability to actually affect in-game rewards.

ModCaptainMårvelousJul 9, 201720 votes

Reports themselves don't hurt your honor. It's receiving a penalty that does (IE: Chat restriction). Had to double-check the video to be sure. That said, constantly being reported just means there's a higher and higher chance for you to get hit with one of those penalties.

XonraJul 9, 20174 votes

That doesn't mean they shouldn't show the progress so you feel like you are working towards something and not just "Working".

Sure the surprise factor of "oh I leveled up" is novel, but it isn't sustainable. That's how you get people not caring again, if they feel they aren't progressing since they have no idea if they actually are.

SwiftKitten88Jul 9, 20176 votes

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It's entirely reasonable for levels to take a while to get... but I do think they're sabotaging their own system a bit by not having any visible progress. Humans need to get pellets now and again or they won't keep pushing the lever.

if u cant be honorable without seeing a reward... you're not honorable to begin with.

Big Ol Idiot ManJul 9, 201714 votes

But everyone being honorable from the start means that none of this would be required. The system is both mean to give rewards to those that already are great and then incentivise those that aren't to be a bit nicer.

SwiftKitten88Jul 9, 20177 votes

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But everyone being honorable from the start means that none of this would be required. The system is both mean to give rewards to those that already are great and then incentivise those that aren't to be a bit nicer.

That was very well written, and is 100% correct. I concede my point.

420 gramsJul 8, 201730 votes

Is there any proof honor 3 exists? Maybe it's just a legend.

General JinxJul 8, 201718 votes

honour 3 ? HA im trying to get back into honor 2... because of , certain ughm... reasons... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

CjSphinxJul 9, 20178 votes

at least you dont have honor 0 like a certain someone.....

MegagonJul 9, 201710 votes

Draven BigBrother Draven

BALDG1VEN BOOMERJul 8, 201714 votes

Literally everyone I come by is still lvl 2, makes me question how it works.

AwesomeGuyDjJul 8, 201712 votes

Its meant to be slow. Like, take the entire season to lvl up.

undesirable teamJul 8, 20176 votes

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Its meant to be slow. Like, take the entire season to lvl up.

if it takes the entire season whats the point in 4 and 5 XD

AwesomeGuyDjJul 8, 20175 votes

I meant whole season to get to 5.

HadfieldJul 8, 20173 votes

Good point. Still haven't gotten a single key fragment though, but I guess I'll just have to play play and play.

Velzard of KozJul 8, 20176 votes

Now that's weird, I get one every day for the last few days.

SweedishGunnerJul 8, 20172 votes

I seem to get 2 at once each week.

HadfieldJul 8, 20172 votes

I've played ARAMs almost every day since the honor update, usually with 1 honor after each game. Maybe I got banned? I really don't know.

SweedishGunnerJul 8, 20172 votes

Drop rate different depending on what mode you play the most? I'm not sure, I only get them in 2's though.

FurriesAreHotJul 9, 20171 votes

I get mine in fours.

PaladinNOJul 9, 20174 votes

I also get them in pairs (mistyped "paris" there, which would've been weird), whereas someone on my friendslist get them in the Jhin approved fours.

The only difference that I know of is...he plays Classic, I play ARAM.

I really, really, REALLY hope this new honour system doesn't treat people differently depending on what game modes they prefer...

Laughs in BinaryJul 9, 20176 votes

I've gotten around 7 in total and at one point i went to my profile and all of the sudden i got a message that said: "Here are 4 key fragments: Thanks for being honorable!" or something of that nature. I don't know why I suddenly got 4 key frags but that was enough for me to think the honor system is working but now I'm not so sure. There's always gonna be somebody grinding out honors and attempting to be the highest honor level. But at this rate if none of the no-life grinder players have it, that mean's it most likely will take the normal players WAYYY longer to achieve honor levels.

tl;dr : If the grinders haven't gotten it in 2 weeks, then the normal players won't receive the first level up in 3, or even 4 months! And we have no confirmation that it's actually in the game.

p.s. : It's also probably harder to get to honor level 4 than 3 as well, meaning that normal players (if they're consistent) will take them a full 11 months! Some of the most honorable players won't receive ANY special rewards...

p.s. 2 : Riot's reasoning for no progress bar is a terrible excuse. Even the grinder's honor depends on other players, because Riot implemented a no honor-value from queue partners feature. Now the grinders have to be honorable to receive honor rewards.

KnifeCatJul 9, 201710 votes

Hi, i'm an Oceanic player (we had Honor a few weeks before everyone else) and i'm yet to see anyone with honor 3 as well.

I've played nearly 200 games since it was released, and i was honored in many of those games, still honor 2 :p

i think by "meant to be season-wide thing" they mean you get one honor level per season🤔

nice tableJul 8, 20178 votes

eh before it took like 800+ honors for a ribbon so ya know

Succubús GFJul 8, 20177 votes

I have gotten 8 key fragments in like a weeks time and get honored every game :O I don't mind waiting the season bc I like keys :D

SlendrisingJul 9, 20177 votes

Day 1000: As I take my last breath I click my profile and it still says "Honor 2" item 3073

2Annies1ChaliceBJul 9, 20174 votes

I think what they should have done is start everyone at level 1, let level 2 be relatively easy to get (in a week or so, or less), to allow a sense of progress to those starting out, or reward for those who have done wrong and are seeking redemption :3

SalsonJul 8, 20173 votes

I think it's a stealth anti-smurf mechanic.

Getting 5 on more than one acc will probably be crasy hard.

ItalyinStalyinJul 9, 20175 votes

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I think it's a stealth anti-smurf mechanic.

Getting 5 on more than one acc will probably be crasy hard.

I never thought of it this way but that makes a lot of sense.

I have logged every game I have played since the new system released on June 29th and so far out of the 42 games i have played with 39 total honors and 17 team honor bonuses, I am still level 2. I have earned 4 key fragments so far(all gained when I logged-in in the morning).

It must be a season long commitment that prevents you from doubling up on account and getting it. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]