Summoner's Rift, Minus The Jungler

Breezy Boyy·Nov 2, 2018·1 votes·707 views

Just a basic game mode that's essentially the same as regular Summoner's Rift, only without the jungle role and the jungle, but keeping the river, Baron, and drakes. It's essentially a 4v4 mode.

I just hate that games almost always boils down to who has the better jungler. Can't tell you the amount of times I've lost a game because our jungler just leeched off of a lane that was doing fine, instead of helping lanes that actually need it. Or chooses to just outright not help any lane, because literally one person said something to them. Jesus, even ask for a gank, and they cry you're toxic and will then go and gank every lane but yours.

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Elite4RunnerNov 2, 20184 votes

Oh! How about another game mode where it is ONLY JUNGLERS? Then it really will be "who has the better jungler"

I mean, you need to be fair, right?

... Or, .. the game could be played in a way that it is designed because junglers are a major part of the team.

Besides, even if you didn't have junglers, you would still have laners that roamed.

Instead of being "who has the best jungler" it would be "who has the best mid" or "who's top laner makes TP plays"

Even if you just removed jungle camps and left it 5v5, you would basically end up removing junglers and top laners from the game and you would have two carry and support lanes and a mid laner.

I could see that being at least more interesting, but I still don't like the idea of removing roles, and potentially champions from viability.

SwiftKitten88Nov 2, 20183 votes

its really not even "who has the better jungler" its really just "w/e jungler get ahead first" after the scuttle changes there is next to zero way to recover in the jungle.. trackers knife is gone so u cant ward your entrances, the chances of your laners helping you is non-existent outside of voice coms. there is no wolf smite to grant vision of an invade.

if u die at scuttle. the game is effectively over for you as a jungler.. as u have no way back in unless the opposing team makes a horrendous mistake

as u cant contest scuttles, u cant contest your own camps because your behind in the jungle, you cant invade ( because your behind), if u gank then the opponent can either countergank or steal your camps. or wait for u at your next camp to kill you.

if u fall behind you literally fucked... even if your better and u only fell behind becuase your made overpushed and gave their jungler 2 free kills then he invaded you..

how u got behind does't matter.. but once behind there is really no way back in outside of waiting for a miracle or if your a champ that is good late game. waiting for lategame. there is zero catchup exp in the jungle.

its not "the better jungle wins" its "w/e jungler gets an advantage wins

and god forbid your counter-picked in the jungle, u make one misstep and its over.

the reason jungle is so influential right now isn't because "its too strong" its because if their jungler is ahead it means your jungler cant do jack shit because they have no way back in the game, outside of a miracle.

if u get behind.. and thier jungler player PROPERLY. your never going to get back into the game. and any good jungler can exploit this to completely and utterly invalidate the other jungle once they get a lead.

"junglers arn't broken", junglers just have no way back into the game if they fall behind

if u gank, he steals your camps, if u take your camps.. he can gank and get fruther ahead.. if u dont know where he is.. he probably waiting in a bush next to your camp to kill you, there is no way to defend against it unless your allied all come to help ward because riot removed all vision tools for the jungler.