Rengar's R should just instantly kill the enemy ADC

Lìght·Sep 25, 2015·106 votes·4,907 views

At least they would spawn back faster.

94 Comments

MelledoneusSep 26, 201540 votes

All you have to do is play a champion who is more cancer.

Vayne

Saminus MaximusSep 26, 20159 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_st2H2Y2Y I dont think playing any squishy into rengar is a good idea, stealth wont save your ass when he one shots you before you can even react. Rengar 1 Counterplay 0

N3mO06Sep 26, 20152 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_st2H2Y2Y I dont think playing any squishy into rengar is a good idea, stealth wont save your ass when he one shots you before you can even react. Rengar 1 Counterplay 0

Vaigar deals exact the same damage in the same times, but locked. this doesn't means It isn't balanced.

Saminus MaximusSep 26, 20155 votes

It was a joke, rengar has counterplay he's just incredibly aggravating to play against if you're squishy.

Pale PirateSep 27, 20151 votes

Gosu approves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGDFOeuVlM

Kappa

MelledoneusSep 27, 20151 votes

Those first two clips were as beautiful as watching 50 billion rainbows while both the moon and sun are setting from a gazebo.

PupelSep 25, 201525 votes

Or you can group and not run alone in the dark where big cats eat their prey

A Miss FortuneSep 26, 201513 votes

What are you talking about? Rengar can just 100-0 you in the middle of a teamfight and get out. I mean it wouldn't be the first time I saw an ADC basically get one-shot and Rengar used his ult for disengage either.

ks916Sep 26, 20152 votes

If your grouped and you see the examination mark drop a pink or upgraded sweeper and rengar is fcked since most build full dmg and 1 cc you burst him.

Sightless66Sep 26, 20156 votes

Assuming he doesn't just jump from outside the sweeper range and instagib you in 0.5 seconds, which he totally can do. It's even easier if your team walks even 3 goddamn meters away from you.

Auz the RipperSep 26, 20152 votes

You see, you're assuming the ADC is the one with sweeper

Photos of GhostsSep 26, 201513 votes

That's what these are for:

grouping
sweeper
second tier armor
bloodthirster

TheDrácoSep 26, 20154 votes

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That's what these are for:

grouping

sweeper

second tier armor

bloodthirster

Sweep a Rengar.... I think I just got aids and cancer at the same time.

Photos of GhostsSep 26, 20159 votes

What. Upgraded sweeper shows stealthed units.

Knight SoIaire Sep 26, 20155 votes

upgraded sweeper gives you oracles sweeper cant do sht to rengo ... oracles thou

but then rengo jumps as far as your oracles reach so you need to actualy know which side he comes from to see him in time

then you need to facton your reaction time and the delay before your countermeasures stop a mad stab cat

compare that to the time rengo usualy takes to kill the adc ... and you notice that ... whenever you stop a rengar ... thats either your luck ... or that rengo doesnt know how to cat

N3mO06Sep 26, 20153 votes

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sweeper cant do sht to rengo ... oracles thou

Litterally do sht.....no really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUWbclKA5w

Knight SoIaire Sep 27, 20151 votes

that video thou

someopne uses sweeper ... rengo goes bananas even thou it didnt so anything to him (yyeah ... that sweeper had no effect on him ... but he still flipped out cause he cant read what sweeper actualy does)

muh counterplayy ... sweeper still doesnt reweal stealthed units even the upgraded one ... but the upgraded one gives you oracles ... and oracles work

RogueWillSep 26, 20152 votes

I play tank so I just put my cursor over my adc and my hand ready on my cc. He jumps and get cc before he can Q.

VentiraSep 26, 20153 votes

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Or you can group and not run alone in the dark where big cats eat their prey

Although I've been 100-0'd by rengo even when surrounded by my team :L

NarasimhaSep 26, 20152 votes

And if the Rengar died too, then its a fair trade.

If he got away, then it's not him thats the problem.

Photos of GhostsSep 26, 20153 votes

No because then they have an ADC and we don't.

TaoistMasterSep 25, 201518 votes

what??

no!!! don't nerf rengar!!!

PennsSep 25, 201515 votes

Nah man, Rengars R should make a Kindred Passive- like menu pop up which you can choose what enemy is gonna instantly die in.

Elephant888Sep 26, 20152 votes

This idea is amazing.

Rito hire this guy.

DengedenSep 26, 20156 votes

Aggravated support main noises

hhaavviikkSep 26, 20156 votes

still irks me dying to rengar mid jump as somehow his Q damaged me before he even reaches me...

RysophageSep 25, 20155 votes

or you can you know...get good. rengar can already kill most adcs instantly anyway.

PennsSep 25, 201511 votes

Yeah get good dude you shouldve just used that counterplay to Rengar as adc. For example . . Play Vayne and kill him.

AnidanSep 26, 20152 votes

Actually, Vayne dies fast enough to him that she can't kill him either for the most part. Which leaves us with a list of counters ADCs have against Rengar that reads thusly:

OyddAWqJ5rSep 26, 20152 votes

item 3157 reks rango, but it takes so long to get :s

Super viable on ADC's vs rango

KhaZix BotSep 26, 20154 votes

Yeah, I've had enough of assassins being able to assassinate!

PupelSep 26, 20153 votes

You dont beat assassins by outplaying them you beat them by outsmarting them. Vison: so you can position correctly, Stick together: so you don't get picked off. Its hard to assassinate if someone is watching you

DropFillSep 26, 20153 votes

Do you guys really think rengar is good? I can't make him work. His clear is bad, his early game ganks are sub-par, and jungling while also maintaing 4-5 stacks of fury is hard.

NemeBroSep 26, 20151 votes

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Do you guys really think rengar is good? I can't make him work. His clear is bad, his early game ganks are sub-par, and jungling while also maintaing 4-5 stacks of fury is hard.

Try him top lane. I've never considered Rengar a very good jungler, but he's a pretty good top lane assassin.

Chicken4dinnerSep 27, 20151 votes

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Try him top lane. I've never considered Rengar a very good jungler, but he's a pretty good top lane assassin.

Not against most toplaners Fiora Darius Garen Azir Volibear Maokai (trust me when he snares you you better have flash or something because his jgler will fuck you up) Gnar Hecarim Kayle Shen Malphite Gangplank Sion Swain Tryndamere

NemeBroSep 27, 20151 votes

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Not against most toplaners (trust me when he snares you you better have flash or something because his jgler will fuck you up)

He has a positive win rate against Voli, Maokai, Gnar, Shen, Gangplank, and Sion. The rest he either has a negative win rate against or there is not enough data to make a call (like Azir, who almost never goes top lane).

BuyMeSkinsPlsSep 26, 20156 votes

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Do you guys really think rengar is good? I can't make him work. His clear is bad, his early game ganks are sub-par, and jungling while also maintaing 4-5 stacks of fury is hard.

Early clear is not great, but that's why you get tiamat to help you with clearing. It's a pretty big power spike for his burst too

DengedenSep 26, 20152 votes

item 3713 You can maintain stacks on scuttle crab. You can always try to flash - root someone early. Even if you fall behind, build full AD and catch out the squishies.

GastonBarnaclesSep 27, 20151 votes

What this guy said.

Chicken4dinnerSep 27, 20151 votes

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Do you guys really think rengar is good? I can't make him work. His clear is bad, his early game ganks are sub-par, and jungling while also maintaing 4-5 stacks of fury is hard.

Killing the smaller monsters to minor camps helps rengars survivability early on before you get massive damage and lifesteal (except for leash). Also don't follow recommended, get rangers. Keeping your stacks is all about timing and knowing what your damage + life gain output is going to be - the damage you take when figuring out whether to blow your stacks (buy lots of pots pre level 9 jgling), this also helps you decide your ganking pattern.

AkesgerothSep 26, 20152 votes

Or you could not suck. Seriously, Rengar is a squishy melee with no gap closer outside of his ult whose only slow is a skillshot that gets caught on minions. Of all the assassins you could bitch about, you choose that.

MalzaharAnyLaneSep 26, 20157 votes

His weakness is the same as Akali too, wait for the exclamation mark, smack a pink ward down. Don't just use a sweeper.

AkesgerothSep 26, 20153 votes

And her invisibility is on a shorter cooldown. And she can turn invisible right away after attacking. And her gap closer is way more reliable. Mind you, she's even squishier than Rengar and doesn't have a slow like he does, but different champions are different.

Either way, my point was that Rengar's burst is nothing special and his ult has already been nerfed to hell. People crying about Rengar at this point will not be satisfied unless the champion is deleted entirely. Which is funny, considering the OP seems to play Rengar quite a bit. You look at his match history and he had 7 Rengar matches, only 3 of which he won. Of the three he won, there are two he completely dominated, which is easy to explain: Assassins snowball fucking hard if fed early and if the enemy team has poor coordination.

Some would point out that he's diamond, but in my experience the ranked system in LoL is meaningless in solo queue when it comes to determining a player's actual skill. I've had to deal with more trolls in Gold than in Bronze, if that's any indication.

MiraweaveSep 27, 20151 votes

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And her invisibility is on a shorter cooldown. And she can turn invisible right away after attacking. And her gap closer is way more reliable. Mind you, she's even squishier than Rengar and doesn't have a slow like he does, but different champions are different.

There is a colossal difference between their invisibility. Akali can't appear and kill you with no warning.

Chicken4dinnerSep 27, 20152 votes

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There is a colossal difference between their invisibility. Akali can't appear and kill you with no warning.

She can, that is Rengar you are thinking of

AkesgerothSep 27, 20151 votes