So not even Faker can deal with Malzahar

Salson··9 votes·2,543 views

The Finals just goes to show how reliant SKT is on Faker.

Malzahar is balanced around one rule in mind, do not 1v1 him. With Crown on Malzahar, Faker had zero solo pressure and no way to take over the game by himself.

Now, more than ever, I think this champ needs a rework/nerf. If not even Faker could come up with a way to beat him, wtf are the rest of us supposed to do?

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Critmaster Garen4 votes

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The Finals just goes to show how reliant SKT is on Faker.

maybe your problem is rather right here?

they identified SKT's weak spot. and thats if you shut down one single player, the entire team breaks down.

Penns2 votes

so you can just pick an uncounterable champ to do that? lul

Critmaster Garen4 votes

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so you can just pick an uncounterable champ to do that? lul

i mean. i hate malzahars ult too, but you could probably find other champions that can put out insane lane pressure and just hold him hostage in lane.

if the team as a whole was better, theyd have been able to deal with their opponents on their own and relieve pressure on mid lane too so hes freed up to do shit.

looks to me like a case of SKT just putting all their eggs in one basket.

Salson2 votes

He simply lands 1-2 more skillshots and wins the trade, again and again and again.

He's a mechanical god, and Crown stopped him by denying those mechanics. Faker just didn't have much to outplay facing a Malzahar.

GripaAviara3 votes

Yeah that champion is too oppressive.

He can push hard, he can kill anything 1v1 and that DOT ability is too strong and annoying mid game. His weakness is that he can't 1v5, but I don't think that's an excuse

needHymn3 votes

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Douglas Funnie1 votes

Currently, Faker is still the best League player. He solo carried his entire team all the way up to the finals.

The teamwork of SSG was better than SKT. That is why they won the finals.

waiting for WoW2 votes

Malzahar does have counter picks in lane, Faker just happened to pick 2 champions that are supposed to be countered by Malzahar, and Cassiopeia also had her laning substantially nerfed recently.

Don't get me wrong Malzahar is an extremely strong pick that is very good in almost every match up but he does have picks that he really struggles against to.

Salson2 votes

Faker is a bit too used to being better than his opponents. He thought he can win on skill alone, Malza just shits on that idea. And still, if Malza had a 50% winrate he might have won.

Still, I'm kinda sad he didn't try Ziggs.

Malzahar does have counter picks in lane

Pls share [sg-soraka]

I can only ever go Ziggs/Lux and focus on poking and waveclear.

waiting for WoW3 votes

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Faker is a bit too used to being better than his opponents. He thought he can win on skill alone, Malza just shits on that idea. And still, if Malza had a 50% winrate he might have won.

Still, I'm kinda sad he didn't try Ziggs.

Pls share [sg-soraka]

I can only ever go Ziggs/Lux and focus on poking and waveclear.

Champions that can severely out harass him at early levels, and/or champions that can easily kill voidlings and knock off his passive. Think Karthus, Fiddlesticks, and Swain etc...

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Champions that can severely out harass him at early levels, and/or champions that can easily kill voidlings and knock off his passive. Think Karthus, Fiddlesticks, and Swain etc...

id think Morgana

shes probably a pain in the ass for him. spellshields and her w to keep his passive down.

Blahhhhhh1 votes

You're right sir, Morgana pool shit on malzahar farming and minions

Salson1 votes

Karthus

I dislike the other 2, but this I'll have to try. Can't really kill him 1v1, but at least you outscalle hard.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Ban him next time. Skt got real cocky.

Cocho1 votes

If not even Faker could come up with a way to beat him, wtf are the rest of us supposed to do?

The rest of us aren't playing against fucken SSG Crown lmao.

https://imgur.com/oFh8sca

Salson1 votes

Your team won as well though. SKT won't really win 4v4 that often when the best player is evened out.

The rest of us aren't playing against fucken SSG Crown lmao.

I didn't really see him do anything special, just the standard Malzahar combo. His Macro was on point, but he ultimately won because Ruler owned Bang in every game.

Cocho1 votes

Bruh, I solo killed him before 4 min. That has nothing to do with my team.

I wouldn't have done that to crown lol

Zarkkast1 votes

They could've just banned him.

This is just like when people were complaining about Rekkles playing Kennen ADC every single game.

ButterBladesX1 votes

Ive played talon agianst malz. it isnt too bad. just a game of keep away and get fed off bot lane and their jungle. malz cant roam as well. rake to kill his crabs and just keep your distance. once ready for the kill take him out quickly/

Dope Solo1 votes

The Malz R is stupid ridiculous for the length of lockdown.

Blahhhhhh1 votes

QSS

Blahhhhhh1 votes

Malzahar pick shit on 1 v 1 situation Rush qss and shit on him. Malzahar is very easily counter

Paroe1 votes

@thread If you have a problem with malzahar buy some MR and respect him. No joke.

If youre an AP champion, just harass him and let him push out so your jungler can gank while you save up for that first item banshees veil. Malzahar is hugely dependant on his voidlings to push with and his spellshield to keep him safe. By getting a little MR you also completely block out most of his unavoidable damage - which happens to be his ultimate and his E. Morellos rush isnt the best choice in every situation, and youre a fool if you think that you can get away with the cookie cutter when theres champions who are designed to stop you from snowballing.

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