Ivern Nerf is too much

batdan 1·May 10, 2017·2 votes·2,786 views

Base movespeed decreased to 325 from 330 Friend of the Forest (Passive): Health and mana costs to place groves increased: Health cost to [204 - 380] from [145-80] Mana cost to [158 - 140] from [135-67]

Is what I read online. 204-380 health and 258-140 Mana is a huge Nerf. Ivern already only has a barely 2% pick rate your just going to make it worse. I love playing Ivern and I already end up popping both my health potions really fast as it is in case of a quick gank from someone like Warwick. If your going to tone it down a bit that's fine but this will make him unplayable early game. You will have to basically back after a few camps.

Hopefully it's not this bad of a nerf on release...

20 Comments

Commando YiMay 10, 20178 votes

2% pick rate probably due to a 98% ban rate

Starcraft243verMay 10, 20175 votes

Can you stop lying please ? Fake news are good to elect american president, not to ask for balance changes :

Ivern already only has a barely 2% pick rate your just going to make it worse.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/fr/champions/stats/ivern

(3.4% pickrate overall vs 8.4% pickrate in diamond).

batdan 1May 10, 20171 votes

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Can you stop lying please ? Fake news are good to elect american president, not to ask for balance changes :

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/fr/champions/stats/ivern

(3.4% pickrate overall vs 8.4% pickrate in diamond).

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Ivern I got 1.35% your a forum troll and need to get your life together.

EndlessSorcererMay 10, 20175 votes

AFAIK, Probuilds.net only follows select professional players.

It isn't actually representative of the community.

OP.GG is far more reliable.

batdan 1May 10, 20171 votes

This didn't know there was a difference. I just go here for my builds.

PaquayMay 10, 20172 votes

Haha, OP doesn't even know where to get his info from.

Starcraft243verMay 10, 20172 votes

https://i.imgur.com/U5IfmoU.png

Because statistics on a marvelous sample of 250 games are really representative.

Djeez, this is so easy to prove people are wrong on this board, it's not even fun anymore.

batdan 1May 10, 20171 votes

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https://i.imgur.com/U5IfmoU.png

Because statistics on a marvelous sample of 250 games are really representative.

Djeez, this is so easy to prove people are wrong on this board, it's not even fun anymore.

If your spending your time on forums quoting people where they are wrong and right, you really need to get your stuff together as a human being. People come on here to post their thoughts and look for others opinions and thoughts. Not to listen to forum trolls who instantly attack what people say. If this is the only thing your doing in your time to the point where your stating "correcting people is not fun anymore" then you need to get off the computer and get some fresh air.

Starcraft243verMay 10, 20172 votes

get off the computer and get some fresh air

That's what I do when i'm not at work.

People come on here to post their thoughts and look for others opinions and thoughts. Not to listen to forum trolls who instantly attack what people say.

It seems to be exactly what I'm doing, bringing another opinion, with arguments, numbers, stats, and sources to back them up.

Because what you think and your little opinion on things might very well interest your friends and your mother, but in real life you have to actually prove things, or at least explain your point of view in order to have interesting conversations. Stating things out of the void is funny for a few seconds but you can't do anything interesting with it.

meowwow7May 10, 20173 votes

i do agree the nerfs might have been a bit out there but he needed nerfs somewhere in his kit

dominusxMay 10, 20172 votes

2% pickrate? he is litterally pick/ban in plat till dia 1 in my games. and he is the most obnoxius champ out there currently rivaled by only a few.

batdan 1May 10, 20171 votes

Ah I'm Bronze/Silver player atm maybe that's why I didn't notice. Funnest champ I have played in a while and I really enjoy the character in general the animation, voice animation and playstyle.

ForgiveColourMay 10, 20172 votes

Oh no my freelo!!! -op

Ok sure but whyMay 10, 20172 votes

they didn't nerf him enough

WarpesMay 10, 20172 votes

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Ivern nerf is too much??

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don't you mean still not even fucking enough?

seriously, suck it OP. Ivern cancer needs to be obliterated already

X Fortune XMay 11, 20171 votes

Wow... So u think Ivern is too OP right? SO TRY TO PLAY HIM :) It is not easy like playing Yasuo... Btw, u dont even play! On LOLKIng i can see that u dont play at all. :/ GG Ivern is my main so i know smth `bout it :)

WarpesMay 11, 20172 votes

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Wow... So u think Ivern is too OP right? SO TRY TO PLAY HIM :) It is not easy like playing Yasuo... Btw, u dont even play! On LOLKIng i can see that u dont play at all. :/ GG Ivern is my main so i know smth `bout it :)

oh my dear god ivern is the single easiest fucking champ i've ever played since release. He is the very definition of Freelo.

THAT. WAS. MY. POINT.

glad u got it tho bro, nice going.

GankedByWindowsMay 10, 20171 votes

No way. He will still be good. Plat+ he is around 7-8% pickrate depending on which site you trust and his banrate is second only to Sejuani right now in the jungle. He is so stupidly strong right now because he buys items that are buffed up because they are meant for someone with almost no gold income. Don't worry about the changes. You'll still be able to go steal their buff reliably. It most likely just makes it so he can't steal their buff AND do a full clear, which is pretty ridiculous.