Why does Morgana get more damage on her Q then Karma's ult...

StarfleetPony001·4/18/2016, 2:36:42 PM·2 votes·1,693 views

I'm being serious, Karma's ult is not a snare but Morgana's Q has MORE AP Scaling and better damage then Karma's ult. Talk about fucked up logic.

28 Comments

cystium4/18/2016, 3:18:04 PM6 votes

Because it doesn't?

Darkbinding 80/135/190/245/300 +90%AP

Innerflame 80/125/170/215/260 +60%AP +Soulflare 25/75/125/175 + 30%AP

60+30=90 so they have the same AP scaling.

80 M vs 105 K / 135 M vs 150 K / 190 M vs 195 K / at this point i assume you level up your ult at level 6 245 M vs 290 K / 300 M vs 335 K

300 M vs 385 K at lvl 11 300 M vs 435 K at lvl 16

This only includes the primary damage and doesn't take into account the explosion that occurs afterwards. (which adds another 50/150/250/350 +60% AP) per ult level.

assuming it hits it would be

300 + 90%AP Darkbinding VS 785 + 150% AP Soulflare at lvl 16

FHMarshy4/18/2016, 4:27:29 PM2 votes

Please get the facts straight before embarrassing yourself....

trash sion4/18/2016, 4:34:33 PM2 votes

Karma, max level skills, 500 AP - Mantra Q with detonate does 1535 damage.

Morgana, max level skills, 500 AP - Q does 750 damage.

No.

Dehitay4/18/2016, 3:01:37 PM2 votes

Where are you getting your numbers? Morg's Q is 80/135/190/245/300. Karma's Mantra Q is 80/125/170/215/260 per level in Q plus 25/75/125/175 per level in R and that's if the secondary damage from mantra Q doesn't hit which would be another 50/150/250/350. They even have the same 90% AP scaling.

xBushx4/18/2016, 2:54:26 PM2 votes

However, I will post on this as an Avid Karma and Morg player I can say Morgs binding does NOT deal more than mantra Q LOL.

If BOTH parts hit from Karma R - Q It WILL ONE SHOT from FULL health ADC"s late game I have done it.

The Sword Saint4/18/2016, 4:12:19 PM1 votes

Single target vs aoe.

Plus karmas enchanted q actually does more damage than morg q on both the initial hit and the second hit.

Billy VoHagen4/18/2016, 4:15:23 PM1 votes

Morgana: 80/135/190/245/300 (+90% Ability Power)

Karma: dealing 80/125/170/215/260 (+60% Ability Power) plus 25/75/125/175 (+30% Ability Power), and then the 50/150/250/350 (+60% Ability Power).

So you're just wrong?

StarfleetPony0014/18/2016, 4:41:50 PM1 votes

Ok, so I was wrong. I fully admit this although I am tired of seeing Morgana have so much damage on her Q anyway when it is clear that it is supposed to be a CC ability and not the bread and butter of her damage.

FACE THE WlND4/18/2016, 2:40:20 PM1 votes

Sigh...

D3m37r14/18/2016, 6:01:36 PM1 votes

Morgana q is a single target snare. Karma Q+ult is an aoe slow

Meep Man4/18/2016, 2:42:51 PM1 votes

One does not heal for % health and is not a tether.

StarfleetPony0014/18/2016, 2:46:44 PM1 votes

Lets look at this logically, Morgana's Q has more damage AND a snare. Karma's Ult+Q has a higher cooldown, is an ultimate and does LESS damage. Something is wrong there. For such a powerful CC, Morgana's Q should not do that much damage for nothing.

The Deckowner4/18/2016, 3:12:23 PM1 votes

What are you even talking about. Karma's ult is a enchanting ability that makes her next ability stronger.

ChaddyFantome4/18/2016, 3:57:39 PM1 votes

Why does Morg get a 3 second CC when Riot stated that CC shouldn't individually ever reach 3 seconds back when they were doing the global CC nerfs a couple seasons ago?