Is Kassadin secretly strong?

Gorgannan·8/24/2015, 12:02:55 AM·1 votes·1,277 views

I've recently decided to pick up Kassadin. Now I am not really a good player by any means. This IS Vs. people in the Gold 3 - plat 4 level, so that may factor in.

The first item I bought was Luden's Echo. Between my E with Luden's proc and level 1 ult (insanely cheap on first cast) I had really good waveclear. One of his most commonly bought items is RoA, but I felt that would be counter to a Luden's rush, which was to offset his horrible early damage. I basically rushed heavy AP while forgoing any tankiness or mana (yes mana) and used his ult insanely sparingly, never going over 2 stacks.

I played 6 games, winning 4 (all the games I won I carried) and losing 2. One loss was my first Kass game, and my second I tried AD Kass. It's a small sample size, but I went against several standard Kassadin matchups. I destroyed Lux, who I believe is countered by Kass. She abused me hard early, but post 6 and after an item couldn't do anything. Same for Zed and Viktor, who I believe are also weak to Kassadin. I had a game vs. Yasuo, which I roamed bot for free kill.

Overall, the less tanky build would be shut down in a very long game where they can build against him, but I had an easy time getting fed early and getting my team fed quick If avoidinga tanky or mana centered build. I noticed that I shined in Mid game, which Kassadin with the usual RoA rush does not.

Does anyone else play Kassadin and have any input? I'm aware that after this recent buff (addition of a small AP scaling on ult) he may not be the lowest win rate in the game anymore, but I really think a glass cannon Kassadin build is much better than what's being used. After a meta shift away from tankier champions, I believe he'll be even better.

17 Comments

Free Elo Kat8/24/2015, 12:03:51 AM1 votes

No because she ccant carry. I recently went against a very fed kass but she just couldnt carry. On the other hand you can shut down your laner so hard because kass's laning is one of the best

One Bind Morgana8/24/2015, 12:43:34 AM1 votes

lux is shit against kassadin

she punishes you for like, levels 1-3 then you get ranks in q and she does 0 damage to you because of shield, passive and your max health being so high

if lux kills a kassadin then he's probably a lobotomy patient

BattleOxe8/24/2015, 1:05:18 AM1 votes

Well, I play him now and then, ever since he had silence on Q (yap, end of the season 3), and I never said (and probably never will), that he's weak.He's early game is bad, true. But most often you can poke enemy down and use shield to block counter harass. Once enemy is half HP you an go in for kill. I agree that luden is strong on him, although I buy it second iem, after ROA. And lich bane is good too. Kassadin has low base DMG, sub-par scaling and great mobility. So you're looking for items to increase your scaling. Basicly, you want to survive early game, get some kills/assists mid game and kill everything with less than 3000 HP late game. His strong point is ability to jump in and out of fight whenever he wants. You pick when you fight, that's why I like him

Hollabakatchya8/24/2015, 1:07:10 AM1 votes

I bought Kass earlier today and I've been wondering the same thing. I tried a hybrid sort of build by rushing a tier and catalyst early, eventually transforming the to RoA and Muramana. His mobility and damage output with some 4k mana by just using his ult alone was insane. In fact, his late game in general is really really good in my opinion. I'm in the same boat though, his playstyle is kind of weird and I'm not sure how to lane with him in general.

Nekusen8/24/2015, 8:21:56 PM1 votes

no, he is actually weak.

if you want better waveclear with him just get item 3025 , it gives him mana and aoe slow, better in him than ludens, also, he absolutely requires item 3027 and item 3003 Kassadin needs to invest in defenses, so item 3285 won't have much AP to scale out of in the earlygame

Geckobut3/13/2016, 4:36:21 PM1 votes

It's not secret... his ult is quite possible the strongest sbility in the game