Lets talk about who needs nerfs CIVILALLY.

Treyhova·11/24/2016, 12:18:35 AM·4 votes·631 views

I see alot of hate threads popping up every week about a champion, but they are almost all circlejerks of "OP PLZ GUT" or "GG RITO RETARDED". So, I wanted to make a thread where you can talk about who feels too strong at the moment and how they could be fixed, while trying to filter out the noise. What do you think needs a nerf and why?

Nerfs IMO: Lee Sin= R is too strong for the utility and damage provided. I would like 2 changes to it, 1 being that it functions like his Q and does missing health damage instead of such a high base, say 200/300/400 (.5 bonus ad scaling and increase by 1% every 2% of missing health, capping at 300). 2 being that the CD is increased by 15 secs at every rank. That's it, I feel like that would not be too gutting.

Vayne= The Q should be a %ad modifier with no base damage, like how Draven's is. I don't know what % yet, but I will start looking into it.

15 Comments

Wonderlands11/24/2016, 12:19:34 AM4 votes

OP GG PLZ RITO GUT RETARDED!!!

Edge of Daybreak11/24/2016, 12:33:49 AM2 votes

When I look at ahri and think damn you would get nerfed if you didnt have the thirstiest playerbase in league. Ahri has been strong for years. I dislike yasuo but only because I can't play against him well. Someone tell me what im supposed to do!

WoonStruck11/24/2016, 12:35:52 AM2 votes

Brand Mostly an issue as support, more of a symptom of the currently over-tuned state of mages in general. Caitlyn Traps need lower duration, especially under tower, and need to not be hidden by targetable terrain, such as towers. Possibly just nerfing headshot in general or Runaan's (overtuned item relative to other zeal options) instead. Honestly should only have a max of 3 traps out at any time. Cassiopeia Laning phase is far too safe and 'free'. Healing? Check. Mana return+recovery with tear? Check. Early game bully? Check. Doesn't fall off, and actually hyperscales? Check. Her passive, W, and R makes things worse. Its like season 1/2 Cass all over...but stronger. Jayce Needs early damage nerfed. Maybe late game buffs so he doesn't fall off so hard. Kennen Ult damage needs to be nerfed quite a bit, that's about it. LeeSin Too generalist, too strong at it. He's better than many champions at each of the things he does, despite being so 'generalist'. Probably take some power off his ult. Primarily base damage and CD. Olaf Probably touch on the axe damage a bit. Slowing down his clear/lowering his poke damage is probably the best step without ruining him. Rengar Lower scaling or AD steroid. One or the other (PBE nerfs are hardly touching him) Syndra Too easy to get 5+ orbs now with new W. E hitbox too large. Knocks back even if she fails and misses an orb. Trundle Wins pretty much every melee match-up, on top of hard-countering tanks. Zyra Too much damage without having to do much of anything for it. 'fire and forget' kind of champ right now. Maybe hit range instead of damage?

IMO; mostly very slight tweaks/nerfs.

Poske11/24/2016, 12:37:04 AM1 votes

While I agree both of this champions needs a nerf this is How I would nerf them since I find your idea horrible as a dedicated player of both...

Vayne Q Ratio increased she received REVERTED. Vayne can NOW do E>AA like she used to in season 4

The fact that vayne lost her E>AA spreads CANCER to all the vayne mains ever since this was changed. In fact I ONLY main Vayne when she is ridicilusly broken because they removed E>AA. WITHOUT IT SHE JUST FEELS ULTRA CLUNKY.. to the point where her rightclick can get fking disgustingly bugged i dont want to go in the details

Vayne did need a mini buff But Riot made her broken with all the consuctive buffs FOR lcs big Plays. Revert the most important One which is the bigger AD ratio on Q

I dont think we should revert the fact that Q>AA can do extra to towers though since laneswaps are no longer a thing because of Botlane Tower changes and vayne was fantastic champion to lane swap with which was indirect nerf to her (Bot and toplane) As a really vulnerable early game champion

As for Lee sin - another victim of RIOT PLAYING Favorites for LC$. Lee sin is borderline broken in good hands IN short I ll try to explain why your specific nerf idea is horrible

HIR R SHOULD NEVER BE INTENDED TO USE AS AN EXCECUTE (because there is no wombo cc combo then) Its just ultra counter PRODUCTIVE IDEA HIR Q IS ALREADY A FKING EXCECUTE WHICH WOULD JUST CAUSE A CONFUSION. Do I excecute with R==? Do I excecute with Q==?

I really want to know how your fking brain works? Most ilogical nerf suggestion I saw in a while

The base dmg nerfs are irelevant. AD Lee sin is situationally viable his high base dmg and ratios were never the problem. You would just remove a 2/10 games where lee gets to go full ad because enemy teamcomp allows him to.......... while tank lee would be just as good there

If you want to nerf lee sin we could start with nerfing his base movementspeed which is to high while he has so many dashes We could Increase the energy cost on some uses So that he has to aa a bit more if he wants to spam

Those nerfs I would welcome

As for increasing cooldown on his ultimate.. That would just make me unhappy......

GULAG 4 U11/24/2016, 12:19:30 AM1 votes

Vayne is getting nerfed, lee sin isn't allowed to be out of the meta lol

Handy Sandy 11/24/2016, 12:38:57 AM1 votes

The only champions that really need nerfs in my opinion are Ekko DianaIrelia Velkoz but thats probably just because im not plat+ :U

AstroFerrari 11/24/2016, 12:27:03 AM1 votes

Vayne's late game Q damage needs to be nerfed. Riot will always make sure Lee Sin is relevant, so I don't he'll have his ult nerfed but maybe his damage on other abilities perhaps. I'm not sure if you've played bot lane lately but Brand is getting pretty damn problematic.

Weathered11/24/2016, 12:36:10 AM1 votes

It may sound strange, but Vi. She has a huge jump in both play and winrate, and IMO is underground over powered. However, I may completely retract that statement after CoC nerfs, she might be at a perfect state after that.