I can see why he's listed as a tank, but seriously, he's much better in the darius-category with the secondary assassin because of his high burst and decent mobility built into his kit. His %hp shield on w honestly is negligible compared to Nautilus' shield.
Nick Da Chip1 votesDododo. I've played a lot of jarvan lately and the full tank +W max seems to be the most efficient. I can't decide if black cleaver or Titanic would be better on him now cause of the w changes though.
Just gotta wait on what king nidhogg says I guess mwahaha.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Nick Da Chip,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2U2VkREe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-24T23:45:24.846+0000)
Dododo. I've played a lot of jarvan lately and the full tank +W max seems to be the most efficient. I can't decide if black cleaver or Titanic would be better on him now cause of the w changes though.
Just gotta wait on what king nidhogg says I guess mwahaha.
Seems pretty worthless in ganks and very low trading power, though...
EbonyBladeJ881 votesIMHO, he's probably going to get changes in the now presumed "Diver" update now that the "Tank" update is under our belts, or a VGU, if his performance starts to really suffer, depending on what happens in the future.
The reason I would think with the "Diver" possibility is because of his Q and E, because it acts like a dash, like many of the other "Divers" or "Skirmishers" have with their mobile-abilities.
I can also see why you'd classify him in the Darius/Juggernaut category, though our reasons MIGHT not be the same. I myself would think it's because of his ult.
While you can trap more than one person in it, it gives more of the feel (to me at least)...
"It's just you and me. Mano-a-Mano."
...when he uses it. When looking at THAT, I can see the want to classify him in the Juggernaut-role, because that's a sort of one-on-one thing that most Juggernauts excel at.
But that classification runs into a problem with his Q and E, which gives him MORE mobility than a Juggernaut is expected to have. That's just MY two bits on the subject.
Ra1uga1 votesIMHO, he's probably going to get changes in the now presumed "Diver" update now that the "Tank" update is under our belts, or a VGU, if his performance starts to really suffer, depending on what happens in the future.
The reason I would think with the "Diver" possibility is because of his Q and E, because it acts like a dash, like many of the other "Divers" or "Skirmishers" have with their mobile-abilities.
I can also see why you'd classify him in the Darius/Juggernaut category, though our reasons MIGHT not be the same. I myself would think it's because of his ult.
While you can trap more than one person in it, it gives more of the feel (to me at least)...
...when he uses it. When looking at THAT, I can see the want to classify him in the Juggernaut-role, because that's a sort of one-on-one thing that most Juggernauts excel at.
But that classification runs into a problem with his Q and E, which gives him MORE mobility than a Juggernaut is expected to have. That's just MY two bits on the subject.
Considering the way I build him, his ult is more like
"Hmmmm... There seems to be a dead body within my ultimate... They couldn't survive my landing it seems"
EbonyBladeJ881 votesYeah, and I've built him like that in the past too. (Back when 
was first released, I took against her, because his Max Health % damage from his passive worked wonders on her)
I was just saying that RIGHT NOW, with the way he CURRENTLY feels to ME (and it's just ME, I don't know of any others who might have similar notions regarding him) that what I said in my original comment best explains WHY he's not classified in the Assassin/Juggernaut categories.