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Why is Malphite Allowed to go Full AP?

ƒƒorAFK·10/17/2019, 7:24:08 AM·9 votes·4,528 views

Laned against a support Malphite, kind of annoying since he has a point and click ability and walks up and does good damage, but we won the lane and I was Ashe. He got destroyed over and over, but then when he was maybe 1/4, he got his ult and just rushed into me and one shots me. Its super early into the game and I buy a stopwatch, use it incorrectly, and now I have absolutely no defense against his ult. I'm grouped with teammates in the back, and he just ults into all of us, one shots me, and gets everyone else low. He just continues to do this, and I can't do anything about it. I have my ult, but I try to save it, and I have Guardian's Angel, but that has a 4 minute cooldown.

Meanwhile, Malph is getting his ult back every 30 seconds. This is broken as fuck and I don't understand why a tank champion is allowed to build full AP and just ape it into the team every 30 seconds and one shot the ADC. It's not fun for anyone and makes me not want to play this game

44 Comments

Juice10/17/2019, 8:00:17 AM6 votes

AP Malphite is useless.

It's very cheesy, and it's "fun" but AP malph is actually complete garbage.

AP malph has no lane presence compared to other supports, his poke is awful as he runs out of mana fairly quick, he has no escapes, no peel = easy target for your jungler or your support to focus on

His only real strength comes after 6 but by then he and his laner should already be considerably behind, and he can only win if he lands ulti on both you and the support

His ulti is easy to dodge with flash and it's easy to bait him to go in with your jungler

AP malphite goes in > uses ulti > dies in 99% of the scenarios , if you can survive that you make him completely useless as often teammates can't follow up on his long range ulti in time since he's super squishy

Build hexdrinker and then maw / GA

If you are all sticking together against AP malphite you deserve to lose. You'd lose the same way against AP amumu, AP fiddlesticks etc etc

Myrmiron10/17/2019, 8:42:42 AM4 votes

item 3155

Jerry SeinfeId10/17/2019, 2:49:34 PM3 votes

cuz he's a burst mage and that's kinda what burst mages do.

I'm grouped with teammates in the back, and he just ults into all of us, one shots me, and gets everyone else low. He just continues to do this, and I can't do anything about it.

have you considered, you know ... not doing that?

It's not fun for anyone and makes me not want to play this game

trust me there's 5 players in that game that genuinly enjoy that.

Saezio10/17/2019, 3:19:47 PM3 votes

Yeah sounds like you and your support played the game horribly, in order to lose to an ap malph. Especially with ashe, each time he tried to get in ranged to Q he should have taken what? 3-4 autos and a W? OR is kiting not a thing in your games yet?

1 Inch and Proud10/17/2019, 10:50:28 AM3 votes

its unhealthy. just like ashes slows every auto and then empowered q. if you dont have flash you die. autos arent on cd either.

Neriticc10/17/2019, 7:25:33 AM2 votes

Only his ultimate has high AP ratio. He gets low ultimate cooldown because he takes Ultimate Hunter rune.

Illabethe10/17/2019, 10:04:29 AM2 votes

Malph doesn't get his ult back every 30 seconds. It just seems like it. Initial CD is 130 Seconds. Tier 3 is 80 seconds, adjusted by CDR.

That being said..... it is aids when he does have it. Just save your flash for it and play a dash comp. You can't stop him but you CAN get out of his ult's way. after he uses it and misses, he's fodder, even if a Q can hit 60% HP.

Love Anastasia10/17/2019, 11:47:55 AM2 votes

I just guess I wont see you crying for diversity in other posts. What do you think diversity is? yeah, be able to play malphite tank, ap or even ad.

Btw, im sure you were one of these guys saying malphite ap was troll until it did get popular

Iźuku Midoriya10/17/2019, 3:51:05 PM2 votes

The problem stems from tanks having high base damages along with him having decent scaling

FioraWillCarry10/17/2019, 6:20:26 PM2 votes

I've tried AP Malphite a couple times and found it quite unimpressive. I've also been playing against this shit a lot on account of how popular it is all of a sudden and to be honest, it really isn't shit. I've found it no more problematic than say, a 10-0 Akali running around or an 8-1 Rengar and unlike those two champions, you can actually counter it quite easily.

If AP Malphite is wrecking a team then it's because that team is trash, not because Malphite is broken. AP Malphite is utterly fuckin useless against a team with even a slight idea of how to play. AP Malphite is good for cheesing wins off noobs. That's all it is, a cheese for quick wins vs unskilled players.

wolvius10/17/2019, 11:10:31 PM1 votes

item 3046 , item 2420 , item 3163 , item 3091 ,bloodthirster shield, overheal shield, item 3157 since kaisa is a popular adc champ, shielding supports with any mr item and he can't oneshot. An ap malphite that can't one-shot a priority target or knock-up a cluster of enemies is useless, alot people aint going to give you much chance for multiperson knock-ups.

Believe me I know i've played enough of predator full AP malphite in aram to know how much the 600 shield from phantom dancer can fuck him, especially if they have lifesteal to draintack after his combo.

Oh item 3812 30% bleed effect can also help survive the burst.

Is AP malphite fair and interactive? No just like the ever increasing list of BS that is going to soon include executes on baron buff because its not like people don't hate pyke ult or champs that require the enemy to outplay themself to die.

Unlike most bullshit though malp has no escape and is fucking useless without ult as AP.

######also AP malp on support budget sounds bad, less gold income for AP items and lower leveling speed means he shouldn't be able make good use of his abilities base damage.