Bot Lane is a Massive Problem for EVERYONE

anmyauntieonpo·1/23/2018, 10:09:33 PM·12 votes·2,107 views

Nearly every game in ranked low elo it seems one bot lane is feeding and the other is fed. It's completely unfair as well that these bot lane champions get their power spikes early before laning phase ends because it makes it harder of the rest of the team to have any sort of impact on the game before its just snowballed out of control for the two who are ahead, and there is nothing that can be done. Seriously as a jungle, mid, top, any other lane it feels like shit to have to roll the dice basically in every ranked game and pray your bot lane does not feed. It must also feel bad for those who are feeding because sometimes it's not entirely in their control. 1 Kill can be GG because low-elo players in general do not know how to play safe.

Anyways, yeah I suggest you make it harder for ADC to scale and that they hit their big power spike some decent time outside of lane phase because us other roles have no way to reliably impact the game when every game goes 5-0 to 0-5 first 12 minutes for one bot lane vs the other. Sure jungle can gank , top can TP, and mid can roam but its not always successful and you will be taxed if it doesn't work out. Rarely as well can you expect low-elo players to reliably pull off plays like these to flip the game in their favor. It's just way too often a one sided feed fest because of inexperience and lack of self-control. Please make it less impactful to the players who are playing other roles. Deduct less LP, or something. I'm sick and fucking tired of going 4-0 jng or 4-0 mid and just getting steam rolled because their bot lane has three full items by end of laning phase.

I completely understand that if this was plat or diamond that the other players would be able to play around this, rotate faster, and have a more reliable way to turn around a game where this occurred(also this would likely occur less as people would not carelessly feed as much) but in low elo its a big problem.

42 Comments

Bronze Demon1/23/2018, 11:17:41 PM6 votes

adcs are op and has been for 7 seasons, we need actual diversity. we DONT need more force metas and "balance" ideas or new champions designed solely for the benefit of adcs.

item 3504 item 3034 item 3109 item 3222 item 3046 item 3107 item 3308 +all the newer supports. adcs shouldn't be the only class where all thier innate weaknesses are thrown out the windows because of these items and champions

Yordle Xayah1/24/2018, 2:24:53 AM2 votes

I just out-cs'd an Ashe by over 110 CS by minute 25-30. I'm a Tristana player. Ashe was 1/5.

Enemy Singed just walked up to me on around 2.5k~ HP and nearly murdered me. I was dealing no damage to the character. We lost that game, if you wanna talk about unfair...

Now come the downvotes :(

Longtowel1/25/2018, 10:07:32 PM2 votes

Well if you change the game for low elo, then the game is also changed in high elo. That’s not fair either.

I think this is just the state of the game we are in. People feed and they feed hard. In low elos peoples performances fluctuate a lot and is never consistent from game to game, that includes myself. When you’re feeling good, you are taking good trades, not missing CS, keeping an eye out for mini maps and remembers to ward. When you are tilted or feeling down then all that goes out the window and you try to go for that difficult lvl 3 kill. You die, and you come back, tries again and dies. You forget to play safe or your support still thinks they can go in.

It goes on from there.

I don’t think it’s a problem with game design. It’s inevitable that this happens a low elos. Changing the game balance won’t help, since it will just make the game that much more frustrating at higher elos, where your plays aren’t rewarded.

H1 H0w are Ya1/23/2018, 10:12:32 PM2 votes

Hate to break it to you but riot doesnt care about low elo

HeyBigGuyHeyBudd1/27/2018, 4:08:49 AM1 votes

The game does feel like a roll of the dice to be honest. Most of my (Low to mid SIlver) games are dependent on which lane snowballs the most. IVe said this many times, the new runes are oppressive

Athenes Lulu1/23/2018, 10:43:11 PM1 votes

but everyone loves tanks and mages as supports!

no way botlane would snowball like that, right?

Draehl1/23/2018, 11:05:29 PM1 votes

Mages and tanks are both just too strong, leaving most stuff in the middle feeling left out. I've been able to play my backup supports: Zyra and Nautilus pretty effectively, but my main champion Bard just feels so easy to take down in this meta, despite his being a higher skillcap champ that I'm better with than the other two.

Ariel the Cruel1/24/2018, 12:05:05 AM1 votes

I play Twisted Treeline. Our problem is top lane. XD