Armor is a useless stat for pretty much any tank-bruiser in the game.

Big Boi Darius·3/10/2018, 6:10:10 AM·5 votes·1,963 views

I don't get it, mr is super effective to the point where you feel like a tank and actually can absorb a decent amount of damage. But armor, is just so useless. 70% damage reduction and you still get melted. Thorn mail, adc still melts you. No matter what I build I always get melted, no matter what armor items you get, you still get melted. Why riot? Why....just fucking why. Riot is way too bias towards adc, they literally have everything against tanks. Increased damage based on max health, armor pen, lethality etc. This is just bullshit. The only champs even remotely effective at building armor are Malpite and Rammus who have abilities that grant them a shit ton of armor and make them the best adc destroyer's in team fights. And now a rune that grants true damage on autos? What the fuck, like seriously what the fuck. Tank meta my ass.

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NemeBro3/10/2018, 6:58:07 AM4 votes

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I don't get it, mr is super effective to the point where you feel like a tank and actually can absorb a decent amount of damage. But armor, is just so useless. 70% damage reduction and you still get melted. Thorn mail, adc still melts you. No matter what I build I always get melted, no matter what armor items you get, you still get melted. Why riot? Why....just fucking why. Riot is way too bias towards adc, they literally have everything against tanks. Increased damage based on max health, armor pen, lethality etc. This is just bullshit. The only champs even remotely effective at building armor are Malpite and Rammus who have abilities that grant them a shit ton of armor and make them the best adc destroyer's in team fights. And now a rune that grants true damage on autos? What the fuck, like seriously what the fuck. Tank meta my ass.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2736647120/228208249?tab=overview

"DUDE, WHAT THE FUCK WHY CAN'T I BE A 4/4/0 DARIUS AND TANK THE 18/6/6 DRAVEN THAT'S ALMOST FULL BUILD AFTER BUILDING ONE AND A HALF ARMOUR ITEMS HOLY SHIT ADCS ARE SO BROKEN"

Also, no item 3047 against a team with two auto attackers (one of whom probably has the second or third-highest damage per hit autos in his class), but you built item 3111 for pretty much no reason lol.

PopcornBunni3/10/2018, 6:22:19 AM3 votes

Not just adcs, but it feels worse against them for sure.

Oh I guess 380 armor, 4600 health, and Tabi and Randuin's damage reductions weren't enough to stop Yasuo MasterYi Jinx from killing me in three autos how silly of me to think they would.

Meanwhile adcs get all the benefit from these items shooting at each other from a mile away and auto-based melees make better use of them against one another than full tanks.

Meep Man3/10/2018, 6:21:15 AM3 votes

Building self-shield items in my opinion is much more effective than buying Armor. If you get stuff like: item 3053 item 3190 item 3193 Are the best anti-ADC in the game to be honest.

Taliyah Rocks3/10/2018, 6:28:17 AM2 votes

Ikr, there's two AP on the enemy team? I get one MR item and i'm pretty much unkillable.

Full enemy team is AD? I buy 5 armor items and i melt in 3 seconds....

.....wut

Tychusfindlay9183/10/2018, 6:22:02 AM1 votes

Tanks tend to utilize armor incredibly well.

It's bruisers that get fucked more than anything else.

JackMcSnipeyz3/10/2018, 7:04:44 AM1 votes

Can you share a replay of a scenerio where you have 1+ armor item and get melted by an adc that isnt fed?

Onotori3/10/2018, 7:10:16 AM1 votes

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The only champs even remotely effective at building armor are Malpite and Rammus who have abilities that grant them a shit ton of armor and make them the best adc destroyer's in team fights.

Even then it doesn't work. Couple weeks ago I was playing ARAM as Rammus, had over one THOUSAND armor with my W, Conditioning and Aftershock, and still instantly died to a full AD team.

FCJAAAAGOOOO3/10/2018, 7:22:31 AM1 votes

Armor's not useless on bruisers - having none is a death wish - but it's not nearly as useful to stack than it used to be.

Basically, if you fight for long enough in this meta you die, unless you have enough raw HP. Damage amps are insane rn.

That's why you don't see tanks stacking armor every game anymore. They always rush the sustain/utility health items. Instead of taking some extra hits from the enemy marksman they just focus on being basically immune to the enemy team's AP carries unless there aren't any.

Ifneth3/10/2018, 2:21:39 PM1 votes

By the time you finish an armor item on a juggernaut, the ADC will be building Last Whisper, penetrating 40% of the bonus armor your item gives. Here are some parallel builds:

Nasus: Trinity Force + Randuin’s Omen + Spectre’s Cowl Ashe: Infinity Edge + Runaan’s Hurricane + Last Whisper

This is the trade-off for building a damage item early. You have to use its damage to win lane and splitpush because you traded the durability of a tank for the chance to snowball. It wouldn’t be fair if Juggernauts were about as tanky as tanks, especially during teamfights, while dealing inherently huge damage with lots of sustain