lol is pay to win

eviltunafish··5 votes·15,767 views

so basicly since i dont have many champs on account im forced to 1st pick trash champ on toplane which easily hard countered and make me lose lane and sometimes game and i dont have champs to swap with my last picks.if i had money i would buy other champs that are mopre safer 1st picks and i would buy support champs to swap with my support.so yea lol is pay to win

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ModAttysu The Poro11 votes

Pay to win refers to people paying real-life money getting an advantage that free to play users don't get. What you're experiencing now is the issue of the leveling system. However, once you level you can get more champions for free with IP, and it's a non-issue. The content you're asking for is not hidden by an irl money paywall, anyone can get to it, and not only that but you don't need every champion to be on an even field. I've been playing for roughly 3-4 years and I only own 80 of the 140+ champions, because I don't buy champions I don't have fun with during free week.

eviltunafish3 votes

having more champions ,runes and runepages are big advantage and you can buy 2 out of 3 with real money

HalcyonDweller3 votes

You can gain access to those things faster with money, but they are still accessible for free.

The definition of pay-to-win is giving paying players access to something that gives them an advantage while denying unpaying players access to the same feature.

Lauchmelder2 votes

If people would have thought that way in an MMO I used to play the MMO wouldn't have (nearly) died.

Amen to logic

StoryDuck1 votes

I still do not have full access to all my rune pages. Most games I only use 3 out of the 7 I have (currently plat 4). There are some runes that are pretty good in most situations. I won't say it won't help to have 12+ rune pages but a few focused runes pages can go a long way for you. I recommend a full AP rune page, a flat tank rune page (no scaling yet till you have a better grasp of late game), and an ad page. You can get a bit more specific once you find a few champions you prefer but some generic aim will help you out a lot.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

Or, you could play the game, buy champs as you go, or just buy 2-5 champs you will play that can go in several lanes and you do well/like, then get general rune-pages for them.

TheDarkinReaper1 votes

Its pay to win, you can simply go buy boost and u are DIAMOND while your elo is iron, or to gold or even to silver. And yeah millions of people do it every season, and thats why the match up is so bad and unfair. So dont try to hide the fact that the game isnt pay to win, its pay2win i try so hard to climb, but others just pay money and they are in high elo, and u cant find a difference because, when he is in high elo, he won have that bad score that makes him iron or anything, because his team will try to carry him, and if he feed all of his team is going to feed means that doesnt matter how hard you work, without money. You are nothing.

Joxcab5 votes

No. Just no.

RenownedWheat422 votes

Please stop.

eviltunafish2 votes

who ever says this isnt true is braindamaged.having 20 rune pages is huge advantage and having more champs to have more versatility is also

Apocalypsic2 votes

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who ever says this isnt true is braindamaged.having 20 rune pages is huge advantage and having more champs to have more versatility is also

I bought every single champ and rune page I own with IP.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

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who ever says this isnt true is braindamaged.having 20 rune pages is huge advantage and having more champs to have more versatility is also

Oh rune pages are a mess, but to be fair I only have 2 rune-pages, and with the new role picking system, I only really need an AD and AP page, as I either play mid-lane mages or ADCs. And can't you buy rune pages with IP...?

eviltunafish1 votes

tell me how many thousands of games you need to play to unlock all runes,runepages and champs?probably like 7000 which means forever

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

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tell me how many thousands of games you need to play to unlock all runes,runepages and champs?probably like 7000 which means forever

I mean... I don't own all the IPs and Rune Pages and Champions... I seem to be having a pretty fair chance.

Åäö1 votes

I mean... Pros have around 200000 ip after bying all champs. Play the game and you'll get more ip (Now it's called blue essence but same shit). That's how the system works

PsychoticCoffee2 votes

And now runes are free (clap clap RIOT tbh)

ApexInTheCircle1 votes

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who ever says this isnt true is braindamaged.having 20 rune pages is huge advantage and having more champs to have more versatility is also

You're kidding right? It's not pay to fucking win it's called pay for convenience. You pay to alleviate the grind which is 99.9% of most free to play games on the market. At least league doesn't lock champions behind a paywall.

StoryDuck2 votes

It can feel limiting but no it isn't pay to win. The slow acclimation of champions being added to your collection is to your benefit because when you first start you will likely be paired against similar people with similar situations. The 450 IP champions are 450 for a reason due to simplicity you wouldn't want to learn a complicated top laner like Gnar in your first few games. Top lane poppy for instance is a very strong top laner and although she can be bullied by ranged champions early she is by no means countered you just need to learn her role as a tank top laner. Stick with it, find the champion you want and master them. Figure out their power spikes and items that make them strong.

CannonLordFreed2 votes

Well yes, an argument can be paid for League being pay to win, but not for the reason you're making a scene about. You're just whining because you feel like you don't have a fair fight even though you really do. League is more or less balanced, so even with a smaller champ pool you can still play just as well as any high level player if you can actually play that well. If you're losing because you have to "first pick trash champ" then you're probably just a really shitty player.

Did I survive2 votes

Thought you were trolling, but after further investigation. LOL I just can't. You sound like someone who wants everything without doing anything LOL.

backstard2 votes

FINALLY people getting it....OF COURSE it is pay to win....everything in this TRASH game is calculated.... A perfectly rigged matchmaking system. trolling free to play players while boosting good customers.....

Magical Zoe1 votes

Well if you want to buy more champions, you either, A) get more money, or B) grind the IP for it.

FEEDlNG TIME1 votes

LOL

Åäö1 votes

Play the game -> gain ip -> buy champs -> ???? -> profit

I'm a Katarina main and I've beat plenty of people who've had more champs than I do

pro one1 votes

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