The jg is in a good place

The12thman94·Jul 3, 2015·3 votes·658 views

So today I played in the jg and I think the jg is in a good place right now. Obviously are really good, but I feel like you could pick up any champ that would typically jg and you would do well with them.

15 Comments

GrashnimJul 3, 20151 votes

Yes, the jungle has much better diversity now. Maybe still a little tank heavy, but it's better post item 3717 nerfs and some champion adjustments.

3TWarriorJul 3, 20151 votes

you're kidding, right? the jungle is the hardest role and even junglers can get killed easily unless they're a sustain jungler or have massive early damage like reksai

junglers typically have the lowest level on the team until the teamfight stage begins unless they are very good at the role and forget about gold compared to 120 gold a minute whereas they get about 80 a minute until they have clear items or the level to do so

i'd rather the jungle just became a source of gold again and 2 - 1 - 2 lanes came back

The12thman94Jul 3, 20152 votes

I'm completely serious. Yes, you may not be as strong as the laners in the early game, but that doesn't mean your useless. You just have to be smart about it. For instance in my game as Zac I ganked mid level 3 and burned their mid laners flash. I then went to check their red buff, found Vi, and killed her. Then I recalled went back mid and got an assist on a kill in the midlane. Yes it's difficult, but if done right you can have the biggest impact on getting your team a good early game.

3TWarriorJul 3, 20151 votes

that's exactly my point. if played right, the jungler has the biggest impact on the game. if even one mistake is made, they are the most underwhelming role and behind in everything

most junglers rely on their opponents to make mistakes for them, for instance as mordekaiser I pushed top lane all the way to 2nd turret in less than 15 minutes, but I was overextended so their jungler came and double teamed me...yet here's the fun part, as an actual lane champ, I could 1 v 2 them minutes later because my farm was so much greater and if one of my teammates came to assist, it was a guaranteed kill, yet both teams had an equal skill level and team coordination was fairly bad as all random matches are

ULTRA RAMOOSEJul 3, 20151 votes

For a tank that's dependent on mana, the early jungle does not have enough gold or exp to keep you in step with your team. As rammus I find level 5-6 far too long of a grind, even when I'm farming back to back uninterrupted.

Rito still needs to smooth out the exp/level ratios.

KeevalroyJul 3, 20151 votes

junglers typically have the lowest level on the team until the teamfight stage begins

Do you even farm?

3TWarriorJul 3, 20152 votes

most junglers are level 7 when their team is level 10 or beyond

AxriosJul 3, 20151 votes

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Do you even farm?

Do you even tax?*

stealthfox94Jul 3, 20151 votes

Most of the champions you mention except maybe Zac are pretty strong right now.

The12thman94Jul 3, 20151 votes

Ya, but one is an assassin, one a fighter, and the other are tanks.

Jaygo41Jul 3, 20151 votes

it's starting to settle, but some things need to be worked on rek sai's power needs adjustment in the downward direction... not anything serious, just a touch then most will be well

Bears Dont CareJul 3, 20151 votes

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it's starting to settle, but some things need to be worked on rek sai's power needs adjustment in the downward direction... not anything serious, just a touch then most will be well

She's been nerfed so hard she only builds cinderhulk. It is unviable to build AD/AP on her period. At this point she'll be an Elise.

KeevalroyJul 3, 20151 votes

but I feel like you could pick up any champ that would typically jg and you would do well with them.

Elise No.

LuggJul 3, 20151 votes

Rek'Sai and Gragas both still need some slight nerfing. Elise needs to be balanced. Do that and it would be close to perfect.

ULTRA RAMOOSEJul 3, 20151 votes

Try playing rammus then come back and tell us how you feel about the jungle. Before the change, I as a jungler could steal, counter and do whatever I needed to based on comp/situation.

Now the jungle has become a scripted event that must be followed to a T, if someone is leashing and accidentally takes a little exp in the beginning, you're behind a level until you can steal some exp from lanes.

This jungle makes for a tedious script that allows no joy, nor mistakes.

Try rammus and come back and tell us how you feel about jungle.

Full disclosure: I only play rammus, 8th in the world for rammus games S3, S5 and S4 plat "only rammus"