Hi, I have a question I've been thinking about for a while. In your opinion what champions are the best once mastered, or what champions have the most depth/mechanics. I want to know because I like things that are a challenge to learn not face roll things. So please comment on what champions are the best in your opinion when mastered, or what champs make u impressed when you see a good one. Please no troll posts and Thank you.
Meriipu3 votesaurelion/azir (maybe not anymore) also bard
Astôlfo2 votesAzir isn't worth learning. Pretty much the only people who can do well with him are the hardcore mains and/or extremely skilled (read: Master/Challenger) players.
adidas3 votesPlay azir. Very rewarding high skill cap
Treune812 votesPlay azir. Very rewarding high skill cap
Don't listen this guy because he doesn't know Azir.
Tøys1 votesYour level 8... What's that about
adidas1 votesYour level 8... What's that about
There are weirdos who keep saying AZIR IS TRASH AZIR IS BAD NOW
Because he saw recent nerfs. Hes still extremely strong but does have a high skill cap.
Also that guy was banned multiple times on his boards account im sure you can see why.
Treune812 votesThere are weirdos who keep saying AZIR IS TRASH AZIR IS BAD NOW
Because he saw recent nerfs. Hes still extremely strong but does have a high skill cap.
Also that guy was banned multiple times on his boards account im sure you can see why.
Ok ok.You aren't right.Accept your mistake once.
Treune812 votesYour level 8... What's that about
Astôlfo2 votes"rewarding"
Yes if you can become practically LCS level, sure. Or if you want to spend incredible amounts of time becoming skilled at the game as well as Azir. Master/Challenger mostly.
Buff Jax please3 votesPeople who mention Azir here should get banned from posting.
He is a trollpick right now.
Treune812 votes[{quoted}](name=Buff Jax please,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=15ciAIpb,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-08-17T20:03:08.039+0000)
People who mention Azir here should get banned from posting.
He is a trollpick right now.
Yes.True.Azir is trollpick.Mid lane Urgot is better than Azir.
Handy Sandy 2 votesSome people thing annie is a brain dead champ - they're wrong. Once you really master annie (I've seen it done) you're a beast.
Orianna is really, really hard to learn, same thing with Azir, but once you do you're really strong.
Taliyah is kinda difficult because your E is hard to land and its predictable once you use your W
Treune812 votesAzir isn't anymore.Aurelion, Taliyah, Anivia, Fiora, Irelia, Nidalee, Rumble.
Bhagswag2 votesAzir.
Astôlfo2 votesYes if you can become practically LCS level, sure. Or if you want to spend incredible amounts of time becoming skilled at the game as well as Azir. Master/Challenger mostly.
Astôlfo2 votes[insert high skillcap champs]
Fiora Aurelion Sol Bard Draven Gnar Riven Shaco Gangplank
etc etc.
If you tell me your main roles (like the lane) or preferred champ types (like what kind of playstyle), I can recommend specific ones.
RiftAwaken2 votes
these are some people i find on the more challenging side imo
Ruin Lance1 votes 
are a few
venomous frost1 votes
But TBH, being good at something requires a mastery of game knowledge more than mechanical skill
if you're wondering: singed because he requires a very unique playstyle, and when played correctly he can definitely carry a game by himself, but fail to play him correctly and you feed your ass off.
GP because of barrel management, where to place your barrels etc...
kindred because I feel like he is more of a dueling jungler, who wants to invade the enemy jungler, thus you need to know a lot about counterjunglin, knowing what paths the enemy jungler will take etc.., also when to use ult
Akenero1 votesIn my opinion: 
are all AMAZING if mastered, and have somewhat in-depth kits, I am personally trying to learn fiora, jayce, kog, riven, taliyah, and shaco to the best of my ability.
Astôlfo2 votesAzir
Yes if you can become practically LCS level, sure. Or if you want to spend incredible amounts of time becoming skilled at the game as well as Azir. Master/Challenger mostly.
FioraWillCarry1 votesIn my opinion:
Seriously ? ? Why is he on that list. He has the least depth of every champion on the entire roster. You might be able to get clever with on-hit builds, his double hit passive and Rageblade but that's about it. He's pretty one dimensional.
Tøys1 votesI think it's because you can doge abilities with q and jump walls with q, his w acts as a auto attack reset, and in low elo you can face roll and win with yi ez but from what ive heard yi is very difficult to play in high elo. You have to know when to go in because he is squishy and if you don't play right you will get cc and die instantly.
FioraWillCarry1 votesI think it's because you can doge abilities with q and jump walls with q, his w acts as a auto attack reset, and in low elo you can face roll and win with yi ez but from what ive heard yi is very difficult to play in high elo. You have to know when to go in because he is squishy and if you don't play right you will get cc and die instantly.
From what I understand about high elo games, utility is highly prized. Stuns, roots, silences, displacements, knockups, slows, shields, revives. Yi has absolutely none of those. You might be tempted to say that he has high sustained damage but that is hardly unique. Kindred and Aatrox have that too. Aatrox has an AOE knockup and a slow and Kindred has a slow and her powerful utility based ultimate.
I know there are high elo Yi mains but I seriously doubt they would use Yi if they really want to win like in a tournament or something. Given their skill level, aside from what you mentioned about his Q and W, which themselves are not unique, I can't see what Yi could really offer to a team of super co-ordinated players that another champion cannot offer with more.
cope moment1 votesTøys1 votesI don't main yi but from my understanding he does have some mechanics, but it is mostly decision making.
SiG DxD1 votesgaren
Treune811 votesArrogant guy.
Cyromo1 votes It's called learning dude he will show you how to do so many combo's Helps you on a focus level hes also awesome. I single handely believe Lee has made me a better player. 
Laning plus how to harass 
People think fizz is easy. Kinda. YOu have so many combos and you can build fizz tank ap tank bruiser and jg