@Riot. What if Corki's Gattling Gun worked like Unbreakable?

Solideus·Oct 30, 2014·36 votes·3,086 views

To me, it feels very clunky to use at the moment, especially when you have to move around a lot. It only feels optimal for close, straight chases; even moving around minions is a big obstacle.

Wouldn't the ability be more nuanced and create some more gameplay if the "facing" of Gattling Gun's cone was locked in one direction like Braum's Unbreakable, or Lucian's The Culling? The kit needs some slight work over all, but this would, in my opinion, alleviate some of the clunkyess from this particular ability.

29 Comments

SteelflameOct 30, 20147 votes

Sounds ok, but they probably would have to prevent him from being able to AA behind himself.

Unlike Braum, who's AAs are not tied to his shield, or Lucian, who can't AA while his ult is running, Corki actually can AA mid gattling, with his primary weapon... his gattling gun. Creates a bit of a WTF situation if he starts AAing behind himself with his forward only pointing weapon.

SolideusOct 30, 20142 votes

He could have an alternative animation for that, like Braum; maybe picking up a hand-gun or something similar.

Twilight DrizzleOct 31, 20145 votes

They could make it so the gatling gun is under the gyrocopter. But for that; of course, he would need a VU. So yeah it would look weird the way he is right now.

JamnonOct 31, 20141 votes

Sounds ok, but they probably would have to prevent him from being able to AA behind himself.

Unlike Braum, who's AAs are not tied to his shield, or Lucian, who can't AA while his ult is running, Corki actually can AA mid gattling, with his primary weapon... his gattling gun. Creates a bit of a WTF situation if he starts AAing behind himself with his forward only pointing weapon.

Well, I mean it could be resticted to the ability alone like Braum's is. He can't AA behind himself without stopping and turning. So yea, maybe some restriction on it, idk.

Hyrum GraffOct 31, 20141 votes

You could change it so he can only aa in the direction he is facing, or make him unable to AA but make gatling gun deal more damage.

oraOct 30, 20146 votes

This could really work, as well as add some consistency to these kinds of spells where you can still act. Another that could use this QOL change is Rumble; I'd be interested to see if this significantly impacted these champs, as it sounds like a good plan on paper!

darkdillOct 30, 20143 votes

Would love to see Rumble's mech actually have torso-twist in combat.

MushkaiOct 31, 20142 votes

I agree, that would be amazing xD But what if it was more like you can reactivate the skill to change it's direction while active?

GorgannanOct 31, 20145 votes

I'm only G5, but I'm a Rumble main, and unlike with Corki, this would be a huge nerf. Corki needs to orbwalk. Rumble does not.

It would suck for him.

darkdillOct 31, 20141 votes

It would help in the dozens of situations where he trips over minions.

GorgannanOct 31, 20141 votes

And add WAY too much counter play for the enemies. He is a tanky and not a squishy adc. He needs to switch targets and unlike corki, doesn't kite nearly as much.

Sire HippingtonOct 31, 20141 votes

and it would hurt in alot situations there ur enemy sidesteps and u need to change the angle... Maybe with pressing Q again to adjust the angle, but Rumble probably would be broken with such a mechanic. Rumble currently is balanced around not beeing able to put down much damage while running away. Change that and he would terminate any melee at top.

Dominick DestineOct 31, 20141 votes

I'm only G5, but I'm a Rumble main, and unlike with Corki, this would be a huge nerf. Corki needs to orbwalk. Rumble does not.

It would suck for him.

This.

AetherKingdomOct 31, 20145 votes

I'd agree with you except that Corki needs buffs in no type of way. At all.

JamnonOct 31, 20141 votes

A QOL change isn't necessarily a buff.

AetherKingdomOct 31, 20141 votes

A QOL change isn't necessarily a buff.

Riot doesn't do QOL changes to nerf champions.

Ori VictoriousOct 31, 20141 votes

Zed Shadow speed nerf.

QoL change for the most part. Still a nerf.

AetherKingdomNov 2, 20141 votes

Zed Shadow speed nerf.

QoL change for the most part. Still a nerf.

How was making it slower a QOL change.

DestínumOct 31, 20142 votes

This wouldn't be a QOL change, this woud be a buff.

Tougou MimoriOct 30, 20143 votes

As it is now, you have to have a ridiculous apm for it to work perfectly. Your solution sounds great, and it would create counterplay to Gatling Gun, although it might have to be buffed a tiny bit to make up for that (maybe just the AoE range).

There's also the possibility of implementing forced turning when gatling gun is on like with Sion's ult but much, much less restrictive and jarring, so that you don't just start gunning at absolutely nothing when you want to move in a different direction.

KingsgraveOct 30, 20143 votes

As it is now, you have to have a ridiculous apm for it to work perfectly. Your solution sounds great, and it would create counterplay to Gatling Gun, although it might have to be buffed a tiny bit to make up for that (maybe just the AoE range).

There's also the possibility of implementing forced turning when gatling gun is on like with Sion's ult but much, much less restrictive and jarring, so that you don't just start gunning at absolutely nothing when you want to move in a different direction.

I want to see what Corki looks like when he is just helicoptering backwards as he fires his gatling gun lol

1 4m 4 n00bOct 31, 20143 votes

It is already a strong ability. Please name another ADC that has a stat as strong as armor pen let alone AOE armor pen.

junglerboy16Oct 31, 20142 votes

it doesn't make sense though because his gun is mounted to the front of his ship, while Braum can move his shield around himself. Other than that, I don't see any problem with the idea.

PickleBabahOct 31, 20142 votes

They could have an animation change, where the guns would be more rotatable.

Sire HippingtonOct 31, 20141 votes

It would already help alot if corki would turn towards an enemy whenever u rightclick it. Currently he only turns once he performs an AA, givien his low base AS and his bad scaling with AS, that leads to a rather clunky feeling.

as mentioned in some other comments, the braumstyle thing would requier a bigger VU or his AAs would become very awkward

BlancheVEVOOct 31, 20141 votes

I really think Corki is one of the last champions to need a buff right now based on his current power level, and given that this would essentially just lead to him having even more kiting potential I don't think it'd be healthy for the bottom lane meta to give him something like this... I agree completely that his Gatling Gun is very clunky and annoying to use right now and I would definitely love to see this fixed in some form, but I don't think adding a new mechanic like this to Corki will be viable without also piling on some nerfs to his other kiting powers. Very cool idea though, I do love fixed-direction abilities like this and it sounds a lot of fun with a rotating turret added onto his copter.

DaCushOct 31, 20141 votes

That's the point. It's like rumble's flamethrower. Think if they were to do what you ask it would either:

Be extremely OP since he's already incredibly strong or
Feel even more clunky cause they would have to lock in place like Braum's shield and it could turn into a much more difficult ability to perform well and you would die instantly if someone jumped behind you

Kats PajamasOct 31, 20141 votes

upvote

SmokingPuffinOct 31, 20141 votes

Corki would feel tons better if the E locked your facing.

However, it would open up new gameplay that maybe isn't desirable -- currently, Corki gets maximum value from E while chasing, and it's almost useless while kiting. The reworked E would be a dream kiting tool.