Fair Nerf to Support Brand without touching Mage Brand

Arakadia·8/3/2017, 8:00:47 PM·1 votes·527 views

It's pretty clear that support Brand is pretty unfun to fight. In general mages in bot lane have been problematic, with exceptions of course. One of the frustrating aspects about these mage supports is the fact that they can build a support item, or maybe even just a dorans ring, without cs'ing and STILL burst squishies.

I think a fair nerf to support Brand that could not effect mage mid Brand would be to have his passive's tick damage no longer count for item 3303 charges. Currently if Brand presses E on the enemy he automatically is rewarded for consuming all charges. Sure walking up and pressing E isn't a good strategy, but its very simple all around for Brand to consume all Spelltheif charges.

The proposed nerf would do two things:

  • Require Brand support to hit more shots for the rewards.
  • Give Brand support less gold in general, thus nerfing the role. As said above, a lot of people hate how a bot lane mage doesn't need to cs and can buy a Watchers then build their AP, and still burst like they were mid lane. If you reduce the gold Brand support has, his burst will be toned down and the punishment for going support with Brand will be greater.

The beauty of this nerf is it would not touch mid lane Brand. Unlike some other bot lane mages who have been nerfed for their abuse in bot lane.

9 Comments

ZephyrDrake8/3/2017, 8:02:52 PM1 votes

that would be great... if he would just not get coin and get more gold anyways making this a moot point. Support brand isn't even strong right now so why would riot ever feel the need to nerf his support role atm?

HalcyonDweller8/3/2017, 8:07:17 PM1 votes

It might make sense to alter the Spelthief's item line to work like the incoming runes, requiring unique spells and attacks. Would certainly reduce abuse cases (if they can really be called that).

Being able to use a spell and rely on the passive to get all 3 stacks off is actually a really cool feeling when playing brand support, but the damage is not as noticeable as the gold, so if anything were changed about it I would rather it at least keep that for the gold effect. I couldn't care less about the bonus damage.

LethalTempo Jhin8/3/2017, 8:56:47 PM1 votes

Support Brand is not even strong right now lol

Give Brand support less gold in general.

What? Not when item 3301 exists. Not gonna happen.

Also, removing the interaction on item 3303 line is just going to make him build item 3301 to get money for not doing anything, for literally standing in the lane. Other lines are at gated with some requirement and have lower income (watch NA LCS: Dignitas vs TSM; game 2 for more on that)

BTW, losing 35 AP from switching item 2301 for item 2302 is a bit irrelevant. He is basically set to wreck careers with item 3151+item 3116.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo8/3/2017, 9:01:24 PM1 votes

Brand is a mage

i have never seen a brand support i seen a brand mage playing the support role