The identity of Singed

Since Singed is getting a glance from a gameplay perspective, I wanted to weigh in on what I thought would help him and what his core problems are. Singed problem 1: worrying about the jungler. If the enemy team locks in Elise jungle and Fiora top, I can't lock in Singed with a big old Grinch smile and prance my way up to top lane. All the enemy team has to do is switch up their setups and they are good to go. Lets look at champions Singed does well against in lane: Jax, Fiora, Yi, Zed. Zed is mostly mid nowadays, Fiora and Yi can jungle to an acceptable degree, and jax with some jungle support will tip the lane into Jax's favor indefinitely. Singed problem 1.1: Too many hard counters. Kayle and Ryze are absolute lanes. There is no winning those lanes against someone even moderately comfortable with the champion. 1.2: Too many people do what singed does but better: take Shyvanna. She has a better lane phase, scales better than you do, teamfights as well as you, and can choose to splitpush or teamfight at any time without having to worry about your ability to stop her. Granted she can't push side lanes as well as you can but when you can take a tower faster than the enemy laner, it really doesn't matter if the enemy minion wave took 200-300 hp off a turret.

Singed problem 2: He can farm and push lanes, but he can't take towers. If I am successful in ganking bot lane or helping my jungler kill the enemy jungler, and get the advantage in lane through sheer "Fed"-ness, I still cannot threaten the inner turret. Why? because all I have is my high base ad to help me take a turret. meanwhile, shyv gets attackspeed/attack damage in her build and can take it quickly. Kayle gets an as and ms buff in her kit on top of her build if she chooses to build ap instead of ad. trynd builds damage/as. Mundo gets ad. etc etc WHY did you remove the as from his ult? It just seems redundant to be great at pushing lanes but being unable to take objectives. And one could argue that you could build lichbane, but lichbane is only marginally useful, especially after the nerfs to that item and it doesn't help Singed keep up with the damage has has to soak up as a tank. I want to be able to take turrets.

Singed problem 3: His kit. When I am fed as Singed and the enemy team doesn't have people who shut me down, I feel dominant. I'm rushing down 2 turrets with ghost to tear the enemy adc like tin foil. I'm controlling the game because of a numbers advantage. Because now, my ult is putting me an item up against someone who is already an item down. Because the enemy support doesn't have enough cc to stop me. I'm able to single-handedly fight 3 people and leave them all burning summoners just to try to get away. Its great. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen often. Even If I manage to get fed, the enemy team has a way to deal with me. Simply by picking malphite, You can invalidate Singed. just throw an E and suddenly Singed cannot catch anything, with or without summoners. If you have maokai, I cannot catch people out because you shut down what I do as Singed. Its either the enemy team can deal with me and I have no options or the enemy team cannot deal with me and I'm going to be farming their nexus at 20 minutes. There needs to be more than just 1 check for "Is Singed going to be able to do anything this game"

Lets combine problem 1 2 and 3 and come to a bigger message: Say the enemy team picks rumble. Rumble bullies me in lane, out-teamfights me, but cannot push as well as me! Great! I'm going to try to splitpush. Oh wait. Even though my team successfully lost only 1 person in the 4v5, I wasn't able to take the turret. So my ability to be useful is limited. Say the enemy team picks kennen. Kennen is managable, though still in favor of the little yordle bastard. He can outlane and out teamfight me and push reasonably well. Where are my options? Say the enemy team picks Chogath. Same problem as rumble. If I can't threaten objectives I should be able to lane or dominate teamfights. None of those things happen typically. No pick against Singed is ever at a significant disadvantage but by consequence, Singed is never at an advantage and the problem begins with new Singed players not being able to find clear places to do what they can.

Now, lets address Solo-q. I am a Gold Singed player. I have been playing Since season 2. Where is my success with Singed? Helping at all times. Peeling by simply getting chased. Outmaneuvering the enemy laner. Teamfighting and pushing my dps to its absolute limit. ghost, Autoattack, ult, gas toggle, fling, Gas on, dodge cc unless its targetted, keep going... eat everything... die if necessary. Did the team win the fight? Great. Did they not? then its game over. I have no other options. If I can't disrupt the enemy team for long enough or force unfavorable fights with ghost+adhesive+Fling, this game is long over. I do a great job as a tank and in soloq, thats all your team needs sometimes. The problem arises for Singed players and when playing against Singed when you feel like you lost simply because the picks and bans phase wasn't in your favor. He is great as an Anti-assassin peeling tank who also aids engage-disengage. But that isn't satisfying. I never feel like I carried a game. I NEED mid or bot to win. I need to have someone who can truly engage fights for my team because I can't. I have run out of time. I will come back to this post at a later time. I made a post similar to this in the old forums under this username if you want to see more or talk more about Singed. @riot @RiotBaconhawk @Ironstylus @Morello