@AnyRioter Sions rework

You Taste Purple·Sep 25, 2014·3 votes·1,016 views

From what I can tell this rework changes 2 things to their core and then throws a bunch of knock ups into his kit.

Awesome...So this technically makes 5 champions now that you have released sense yasuos release and you are just plying them all with knock ups. Will Taric get a rework with a knock up next? is that where its headed just ply kits with lots of knock ups? Because me and a ton of people I know have talked about this being a big issue and are afraid that its just going to keep heading in this direction.

Sion seems now to be tryndamere 2.0 with knock ups and instead of crit he just hits you for % max health. Plus he also still seems to have the exact same ap to ad crisis in his kit with the added capability of toggling his shield.

Also as far as yasuo goes every champion you release with knock ups is just a buff to him...he already has a lot of people who synergize with him and by doing this you are completely removing the concept of any yasuo ever having to rely on himself for a knock up. I have brought this issue up 3 times and each time a few weeks later bam another knock up. I want to continue bringing it up until a few things happen without plying people with knock ups as a solution or until I hear some sort of reasonable explanation behind the idea of every champion needing to be another buff to yasuo.

11 Comments

SilentEternal1Sep 25, 20142 votes

I agree with you. It seems like there has really been an explosion of champion displacement cc since they released Yasuo. It's troubling to me, since you can't defend against it. Tenacity, cleanse, quicksilver sash: none of it will help you against knockups or other displacement. You also stop dashes and jumps with displacement effects, which is another benefit it has over traditional cc like stuns or roots. It is just clearly superior, and as it becomes more prevalent, it becomes more problematic for defensive play.

Also, I agree that Sion seem to tread on a lot of existing champion toes now. He is a super Tryndamere with his passive, and you can't even hope to insta-gib him to get around it, like you can with Trynd. He does everything Malphite does, with a long range unstoppable AoE knockup engage, while having even more AoE cc to follow it up with.

I suppose Sion mains have been waiting for their moment in the sun, but I wish it didn't come by cloning and replacing existing champs.

DryditchSep 26, 20141 votes

I actually main both Malphite and Sion, and I think they still occupy entirely different positions on the rift. Sion's a huge, hulking death machine designed to dish out so much damage that his health in general won't matter, while Malphite is all about building up his health to make sure he can soak damage. Mal has a unique set of skills that make him super effective in a position like support, while the new Sion seems like he'll be most at home in Mid/Top lane.

DecritSep 25, 20141 votes

He smashes the weapon in the ground. He is brutal. I hardly see a champion stunned by a gaze. It makes sense to me.

You Taste PurpleSep 25, 20141 votes

If they got stunned ok I would be fine with it...they dont get stunned...its a knock up

DecritSep 25, 20141 votes

Probably you are right, after all even with Mega Gnar the smash does not knock up. However to be frank i don' t see many top laners with knock-ups, and i think it is good to give some room for team composition at least in competitive. I mean there are really few choices as top knockback: Mundo Olaf and Rumble have none. Cho, Alistair, Gragas, Malph, J4 and Xin are good but somewhat underpicked, while only Riven and Aatrox looks in a good shape for top. Among all Top competitive choices having only 6 to knock up, with some borderlinely played, makes sense to add some knock up. Probably i missed something, however?

But i agree that maybe a simple stun was enough, let' s not forget airbound is immune to tenacity. But let' s not start nerfing him yet, let him flesh (heh) out ;D

You Taste PurpleSep 25, 20141 votes

Not to bad a point but keep in mind all of the people who have knock ups already outside of top lane including braum velkoz and azir then you have everyone from orianna to thresh or Vi

DecritSep 25, 20141 votes

But if you don' t want those champions? It' s not good to have strict bounds in team formation, so at least one more choice for top is not distruptive. But oh well, guess we understood each other. Just know that, if one day a flood of knockup champions rided by a bunch of surf'in Yasuos will try to dominate the LoL meta, i will be amongs those who will stop them U_U

You Taste PurpleSep 25, 20141 votes

Good to know :P

SunfieldSep 25, 20141 votes

Yes I do see it. But for all of them knock ups make sense thematically, so its ok. Doesnt bother me that much tbh

SilentEternal1Sep 25, 20141 votes

I don't see the that Velkoz's knock up fits thematically, or Azir's non-ult one.

But thematics aside, it bothers me because knock ups are superior to any other form of CC. You can't build tenacity, you can't cleanse, or Quicksilver sash it. Knock ups are super supressions.

SunfieldSep 25, 20141 votes

Yeah well of all of them, Vel koz does seem pretty weird