Why do i get really bad teammates when i have a winning streak in ranked of 1000 games

Srbonator··4 votes·2,601 views

I mean should i get like better teammates. I always get some dumb bot laners who manage to go 0/5 at the start then get to the late game 0/20 1/15. I just played an ranked match with my friend. Both of us did decent and our mid laner, but our bot laners decided to feed tristana which got 5/0 in 6th minute. At the end we lost a game which we could win if we had at least bronze bot laners instead of unranked ones, i mean i dont want to act like im a good player or something im silver 2 and im trying to get to silver 1 and hopefuly to gold v but everytime i get bad teammates and i need to carry but i cannot carry because i main pantheon and most of my friend tell me that he cant carry a game. Can you like fix the matchmaking and make decent/good players matched together?

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5050BS3 votes

Its called Riots MMR System. It is built to make sure your climb is as long and hard as it possibly can be so you keep playing.

ForFoxSakes2 votes
  1. Panth can carry
  2. The ranked matchmaking in the game you're crying about is pretty damn even with everyone S4-S2
Srbonator1 votes

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  1. Panth can carry
  2. The ranked matchmaking in the game you're crying about is pretty damn even with everyone S4-S2

Support was unranked and adc was 33% winrate silver 3

ForFoxSakes1 votes

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Support was unranked and adc was 33% winrate silver 3

Support unranked with S4 MMR, ADC still had S4 MMR

Your opponents had an unranked jungler and everyone one their team has S4-S2 MMR. Game still even

Srbonator1 votes

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Support unranked with S4 MMR, ADC still had S4 MMR

Your opponents had an unranked jungler and everyone one their team has S4-S2 MMR. Game still even

Well my supports played the game like he got bronze 5 mmr and adc mmr of a bronze 3. Maybe they got boosted or lucky in their first 10 rankeds.

Madsin252 votes

First of all, your teammates are better the higher up you go.

Second of all, so are your opponents.

It might seem like you have worse teammates but it's just not true.

You could have shut down that 5-0 fed ADC if you were good enough, but the sad truth is you aren't.

Srbonator1 votes

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First of all, your teammates are better the higher up you go.

Second of all, so are your opponents.

It might seem like you have worse teammates but it's just not true.

You could have shut down that 5-0 fed ADC if you were good enough, but the sad truth is you aren't.

I actually did, a few times but you cannot continue doing it because i had to go top to def my lane. When i leave bot they just give her againt 5 kills

Narrow Jack2 votes

I can sympathize with your plight. I too get frustrated that players don't understand how to back off after they gave over kills to their laner. They come back and play the lane like nothing happened and then get killed again. Especially bot lane with double kills. That snowballs them harder.

For some reason players only have one speed, "go". Just keep hard pushing their lanes. They can't stop themselves from attacking the waves and trying to trade, and guess what. They are overextended and die to a gank or an all-in with an item disadvantage. Learning how to stabilize a lane after you give a kill is important. Its how you stop the snowball. I am not above this as I am S3. Usually after I die to the gank in that scenario, I get really mad at myself because I know better.

As others have stated there isn't much you can do. The match making does put you with others that are your MMR. The problem is that the placement system is fucked up. All new Ranked accounts usually get dropped into Silver. So it can feel like you go from playing with others that have your awareness and game knowledge to players that aren't any better than bots.

I personally feel that all new ranked accounts need to be placed into a separate unranked tier with only one division. They are required to climb to 100 LP and win a bo3 promo. Once they do that they are placed in Bronze. Here is my reasoning. This will/should do the following. First, Bronze will actually be a goal to attain instead of being crapped on (even though it is the bottom tier, at least you have to climb to get to it). Second, it will stabilize Silver as it is noted to have the widest gap in skill of all the ranked tiers and has the highest population of players. I feel this will help smooth out the tier.

If the new account is unable to climb out of the unranked tier then there is a reason and they will need to improve to do so. Once you climb out of unranked you will have the placement matches for any new seasons like we have now.

I have played with people in silver that are just slowly demoting out but the system intentionally tries to help them climb so it takes them forever to fall. While this is happening they are negatively affecting the games of players that are actually climbing. This has created a negative experience for me and a large amount of frustration. I understand that I am going to lose games, I just don't want to lose because the player is in the wrong rank. Riots system of auto placing new accounts in Silver is pretty bad.

The first time I did placements I was put into Silver 4. I demoted to silver 5 and stopped playing because I wanted a silver border for my year end reward. This was 3 years ago. I recognized at the time that I was over my head. The next year I was placed B4 and I slowly climbed to Silver 5. Last year I started Bronze 3 and ended Silver 3. I maxed out at Silver 2 100 LP before I went on a losing streak that I blame on matchmaking. it was unreal the bad players that I got on my teams repeatedly. I demoted back down to Silver 3. I stopped playing ranked 2 weeks before the end of the season because I was so tilted. This year I started Bronze 2 and am currently silver 3. I recognize that I am still pretty bad at this game but my point is that I should not have been placed in silver my first year.

This whole long reply post is to show that I really do understand what you are describing. I hope the new ranked system that riot is going to deploy next year will address this issue. new accounts in silver creates an unneeded impediment to improving and climbing the ranked ladder.

Srbonator1 votes

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I can sympathize with your plight. I too get frustrated that players don't understand how to back off after they gave over kills to their laner. They come back and play the lane like nothing happened and then get killed again. Especially bot lane with double kills. That snowballs them harder.

For some reason players only have one speed, "go". Just keep hard pushing their lanes. They can't stop themselves from attacking the waves and trying to trade, and guess what. They are overextended and die to a gank or an all-in with an item disadvantage. Learning how to stabilize a lane after you give a kill is important. Its how you stop the snowball. I am not above this as I am S3. Usually after I die to the gank in that scenario, I get really mad at myself because I know better.

As others have stated there isn't much you can do. The match making does put you with others that are your MMR. The problem is that the placement system is fucked up. All new Ranked accounts usually get dropped into Silver. So it can feel like you go from playing with others that have your awareness and game knowledge to players that aren't any better than bots.

I personally feel that all new ranked accounts need to be placed into a separate unranked tier with only one division. They are required to climb to 100 LP and win a bo3 promo. Once they do that they are placed in Bronze. Here is my reasoning. This will/should do the following. First, Bronze will actually be a goal to attain instead of being crapped on (even though it is the bottom tier, at least you have to climb to get to it). Second, it will stabilize Silver as it is noted to have the widest gap in skill of all the ranked tiers and has the highest population of players. I feel this will help smooth out the tier.

If the new account is unable to climb out of the unranked tier then there is a reason and they will need to improve to do so. Once you climb out of unranked you will have the placement matches for any new seasons like we have now.

I have played with people in silver that are just slowly demoting out but the system intentionally tries to help them climb so it takes them forever to fall. While this is happening they are negatively affecting the games of players that are actually climbing. This has created a negative experience for me and a large amount of frustration. I understand that I am going to lose games, I just don't want to lose because the player is in the wrong rank. Riots system of auto placing new accounts in Silver is pretty bad.

The first time I did placements I was put into Silver 4. I demoted to silver 5 and stopped playing because I wanted a silver border for my year end reward. This was 3 years ago. I recognized at the time that I was over my head. The next year I was placed B4 and I slowly climbed to Silver 5. Last year I started Bronze 3 and ended Silver 3. I maxed out at Silver 2 100 LP before I went on a losing streak that I blame on matchmaking. it was unreal the bad players that I got on my teams repeatedly. I demoted back down to Silver 3. I stopped playing ranked 2 weeks before the end of the season because I was so tilted. This year I started Bronze 2 and am currently silver 3. I recognize that I am still pretty bad at this game but my point is that I should not have been placed in silver my first year.

This whole long reply post is to show that I really do understand what you are describing. I hope the new ranked system that riot is going to deploy next year will address this issue. new accounts in silver creates an unneeded impediment to improving and climbing the ranked ladder.

The thing about placements is true, i got placed in silver 5 like instantly. Everything you said is basically same here "I can sympathize with your plight. I too get frustrated that players don't understand how to back off after they gave over kills to their laner. They come back and play the lane like nothing happened and then get killed again. Especially bot lane with double kills. That snowballs them harder. " That is 100% same here and true they really walked back to the lane like the game just started and died in 5 seconds! Finally somebody who understands why am i getting so tilted by this

BIFF2 votes
  1. Ranked MMR is in a horrid place right now. Especially in silver as it is the catch all pool for like 50% of players.

  2. Any champ can succeed between bronze and diamond. If you know the champ and meta play.

  3. Duoing with your friend may actually be hurting you. Even though you think it is protecting you against 1 less feeder it could infact be limiting your overall climbing potential.

  4. They went 0/20 and you still made it to late game? That means it was winnable and both teams lost focus of objectives at some point and did not close out the game.

  5. Do you know what your win conditions are for the champ you play? If you dont then you will never make it past s1-s2 due to the technical idiocy you see at that level of play.

Srbonator1 votes

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  1. Ranked MMR is in a horrid place right now. Especially in silver as it is the catch all pool for like 50% of players.

  2. Any champ can succeed between bronze and diamond. If you know the champ and meta play.

  3. Duoing with your friend may actually be hurting you. Even though you think it is protecting you against 1 less feeder it could infact be limiting your overall climbing potential.

  4. They went 0/20 and you still made it to late game? That means it was winnable and both teams lost focus of objectives at some point and did not close out the game.

  5. Do you know what your win conditions are for the champ you play? If you dont then you will never make it past s1-s2 due to the technical idiocy you see at that level of play.

  1. Ye i can see that 2. Im pretty decent panth player with 74% winrate mostly top lane since i dont like him in jungle 3. Well its way better than playing solo since me or my friend gets fed and carry the game if possible 4. The reason we made it into late was that me and my friend and maybe the mid laner were trying but we couldnt fight 3v5 5. Well i know that panth is freelo and i just got today in promos. Anyways thanks for the help at least it wasnt really toxic response like few ones.
BlinkZZ1821 votes

i assure you it will stay this way even if you get to the 2000 games mark in ranked

Srbonator1 votes

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i assure you it will stay this way even if you get to the 2000 games mark in ranked

I try not to be like this but i really got tired when getting somebody with 33% winrate in the game

artcrime29991 votes

Don't play ranked

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