tl;dr:
FORG1VENGRE's honesty got him in trouble and fined 1k USD... because his team was shit.
Now that he's on a good team, his honesty is great.
Konidias4 votesDid you read the same article? They pretty much cover this:
"As we've seen in his past, FORG1VENGRE's tendency to speak honestly in the public space is nothing new. But now as a player on SK Gaming, instead of reacting with malice, it is showmanship that is shining through. All of his commentary lately is focused more positively about himself and his abilities, and his critical comments about other players have been more analytic than toxic."
S0NA2 votesDid you read the same article? They pretty much cover this:
"As we've seen in his past, FORG1VENGRE's tendency to speak honestly in the public space is nothing new. But now as a player on SK Gaming, instead of reacting with malice, it is showmanship that is shining through. All of his commentary lately is focused more positively about himself and his abilities, and his critical comments about other players have been more analytic than toxic."
I was under the impression that critical comments == toxic.
At least that's what the "We're aware everyone has bad days..." comment that pops up when someone reports you has led me to believe.
Zenima3 votesI was under the impression that critical comments == toxic.
At least that's what the "We're aware everyone has bad days..." comment that pops up when someone reports you has led me to believe.
You've been led poorly then, as critical comments (criticism?) are not toxic by nature, it's the content and the wording that makes them toxic or not.
While I do not know what the "We're aware everyone has bad days..." Comment says fully, everyone does have bad days and that can lead to more toxic comments. There's also the problem that not everyone really knows how to tell people they're doing poorly in a constructive manner, nor do a lot of people know how to receive constructive criticism, which is why muting is effective as you won't have to deal with criticism at all. I've gone well off on a tangent, but point is critical comments =/= toxicity, but can end up causing toxic behavior.
S0NA1 votes[{quoted}](name=Z Grade,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=rHEciMvE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-02-10T03:50:39.937+0000)
You've been led poorly then, as critical comments (criticism?) are not toxic by nature, it's the content and the wording that makes them toxic or not.
While I do not know what the "We're aware everyone has bad days..." Comment says fully, everyone does have bad days and that can lead to more toxic comments. There's also the problem that not everyone really knows how to tell people they're doing poorly in a constructive manner, nor do a lot of people know how to receive constructive criticism, which is why muting is effective as you won't have to deal with criticism at all. I've gone well off on a tangent, but point is critical comments != toxicity, but can end up causing toxic behavior.
Fixed that for you... sorry I'm a freak.
If you didn't get the sarcasm in my comment, you're an idiot... In fact, I think you've missed the entire point of my thread. My EXACT POINT is what you've typed and how Riot doesn't seem to get exactly what your comment seems to think I don't get.
The Soulforged1 votesFixed that for you... sorry I'm a freak.
If you didn't get the sarcasm in my comment, you're an idiot... In fact, I think you've missed the entire point of my thread. My EXACT POINT is what you've typed and how Riot doesn't seem to get exactly what your comment seems to think I don't get.
To be fair, your sarcasm was terribly unclear.
Zenima1 votesI was actually wondering whether or not to use computer terminology for "does not equal" or something a bit more obvious heh, don't worry about that.
Also, this is text, not speech. Sarcasm is typically conveyed through tone of voice, not through wording, thus sarcasm can be extremely hard to detect on the internet if there isn't a /sarcasm, but making it that obvious can weaken the strength of the sarcasm, which is why sarcasm is really just something that should not be on the internet even if it is very amusing to use to make a point. That was way too long a sentence, but my point stands.
Remlap12231 votesGreat, that's just what the toxic players need, a leader to rally behind their cause. And we wonder why the community just seems to get more and more toxic every passing day.