german sources showed that g2 never had a large gold lead. but they played better. also besides first bloods, in all major stats (dragons barons heralds total gold total damage) g2 was behind in every game.
NIghtshadowb3 votesJust shows how insane G2 is as a team. If Perkz had not switched to ADC and Fnatic kept Caps, SKT would be the PEAK of teamwork instead!
Jennifer171 voteswould you agree when i say perkz was nothing special as midlaner, but shines as adc?
Saezio1 votesWTF NO.
Luka mid was amazing. What are you talking about? How many splits did he win as midlaner? With a bad team too... Just last year he made it to worlds semis with a heimer otp as adc. Are you mental mate?
IncrediPhiLL2 votesThat’s because G2 doesn’t rely and cater their game to the Gold lead. I feel like there is this misconception that a team “shouldn’t” fight while down in gold and they “shouldn’t” be proactive when down in gold. That thought process opens the door for the gold lead to just balloon because a team isn’t doing anything about it.
Every time SKT got Baron, G2 attacked them and voided it. Most teams would have Just turtled until the buff was gone, but G2 didn’t care and fought them anyway. I think SKT lost those fights because they didn’t expect G2 to attack them because they had Baron! It was a glorious display of saying “screw your gold lead!”
I especially loved it in game 3 when SKT had Baron and a lead, and G2 just pushed into their base and took it... I imagine SKT went back to their room after that and was like... “can they do that? Are they allowed to do that?”
DaStruggIeEzreaI1 votesI don't think that's a misconception. If you watch the team fights they won when they were down or behind, they won them because someone on SKT mechanically misplayed quite dramatically every time. The blame is spread around the team, but in game 3 in particular that you referenced go watch every baron team fight and focus on Effort. Those team fights were close with Effort whiffing every spell, taking 50% of his hp to baron, then dying to random AOE without doing anything. He didn't even give his team value by absorbing a good ult. 4v5 in a close gold game is always advantage to the 5.
It's still quite the accomplishment to say that G2 essentially never mechanically messed up in any team fight in an entire series. But they were clearly worse at teamplay that series.
ChompyWulf2 votesThis really. Effort and then Mata each were repeatedly caught out of position and getting deleted before their team was able to fight. Game 4 Faker also had a couple bad positions too.
Sure, it helps to have an aggressive mindset so you don't concede tons of map control against a Baron buff, but it wasn't just that.
Saezio2 votesNot only game 4. His neeko was bad too. He got caught at the worst timing when his team was 5v4 and ready to set up at baron.
ChompyWulf2 votesYeah, he was caught a time or two as Neeko, but also made some good plays that game that helped the team. I kinda give everyone a pass on Game 1 small misplays like wrong positioning, as long as it's nothing like the ADC flashing into the enemy team like Rekkles, Bang, and Cody Sun have.
Overall G2 just rotated better, didn't get caught in bad positions as much, and used their advantages to take bigger gains.
Saezio1 votesteamplay and teamfight are not the same.
SKT might have been better at teamfighting but G2 were better at working the map as 5. Almost none on G2 got caught at the wrong timing in all 4 games.
Pandemic Punch1 votesThat’s because G2 doesn’t rely and cater their game to the Gold lead. I feel like there is this misconception that a team “shouldn’t” fight while down in gold and they “shouldn’t” be proactive when down in gold. That thought process opens the door for the gold lead to just balloon because a team isn’t doing anything about it.
Every time SKT got Baron, G2 attacked them and voided it. Most teams would have Just turtled until the buff was gone, but G2 didn’t care and fought them anyway. I think SKT lost those fights because they didn’t expect G2 to attack them because they had Baron! It was a glorious display of saying “screw your gold lead!”
I especially loved it in game 3 when SKT had Baron and a lead, and G2 just pushed into their base and took it... I imagine SKT went back to their room after that and was like... “can they do that? Are they allowed to do that?”
Your post contradicts itself and most analysts will agree with what you said in the later part of your posts. G2 doesn't "just fight" over important objectives. They strategically give them up when they know they can't win the fight for it to take something else. Most LPL teams do what you said in the beginning of your post. They fight over objectives even if the enemy team has a 98% chance of winning the fight and the objective.