[SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!] a question about the recent FNC vs TSM game

Cryo00·7/7/2017, 6:20:47 PM·1 votes·716 views

Was the Kennen/Camille bot lane a reason for their loss ? I know that Kha went out of hand as well, but I feel like that weird bot-lane could have also been a part of the reason.

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archerno17/7/2017, 6:28:29 PM1 votes

Nah reason was that Broxah was locked out of his best junglers and he doesnt have much experience on Rek'Sai. His bad rotations fed Khazix who snowballed game.

BigBellBrute7/7/2017, 6:43:47 PM1 votes

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Was the Kennen/Camille bot lane a reason for their loss ? I know that Kha went out of hand as well, but I feel like that weird bot-lane could have also been a part of the reason.

While I'm not the biggest fan of Kennan adc, I don't see Camille support at all. I just don't think she can operate gold starved and item poor. I think her ending items were eye of the equinox, knight's vow, ionian boots, and a refillable potion. But don't hold me to that. Does Kha fear any CC from Camille? But the bot lane alone didn't get them beat. They really had nothing for Sven's Kha plus support bjerg (haha) anywhere on the board.

Something else I'd like to add. For all the handwringing over Bjerg getting our favorite fair and balanced gargoyle a few weeks back, it seems to be working out fine now that they're more used to it.

JavelinJoe7/7/2017, 7:49:10 PM1 votes

The combo their ults have is why it works to an extent. Camille sets up for the Kennen AOE ult stun with her ult. Kennen's stun then allows Camille to get a few empowered autos off too. Camille also has a good amount of CC too.

Nipsahoy7/7/2017, 9:34:37 PM1 votes

Fnatic only plays one style and NA teams showed it's easily beatable. Honestly Fnatic is just too predictable really. They pick a split push ad carry usually Kennen, and they put Soaz on a tanky top laner and Caps on a mid that should have good early/mid game pressure and then use his roams to get stuff done. They got crushed in bot lane and mid was shutdown and they don't pick much for late game so they couldn't close anything out.

UoL else has been picking/playing the same comp basically every game. They pick Gragas early, go for a twitch and gnar and usually put exile on some type of scaling mid game champ like Kassadin or Vlad. He hasn't been able to play anything else at all effectively.

I think NA can just play more team compositions and way more effectively than EU has shown this tournament. If Eu can't make some changes to their style it will be a rough worlds for them this year.

Raiyza7/7/2017, 9:38:37 PM1 votes

Rekkles needs to widen his pool. Kennen is easily handled.

Mr Nielsen7/8/2017, 12:25:06 AM1 votes

It's actually quite easy to see why eu lost overall. If you look past picks and laning phases that went both ways a few times then just look at teamfights. Look at how bad zven and Rekkles played them overall this tournament. Their dps uptime is absolutely horrible. Them just standing in the background while their team is actually fighting. And this is lategame. Double,if awrecking the Euro teams meanwhile. The Euro mids where also underperforming heavily in laning phase. All three of them where shit this torunament