Sad to see Immortals Go
But Damn! Go Fnatic!
But Damn! Go Fnatic!
I'm not sad. I'm enraged. Flame needs shipped out, has become a huge liability and a worthless body on the rift. And after three losses trying it, don't ever have Xmithie do jungle Ez ever again.
I'm not sad. I'm enraged. Flame needs shipped out, has become a huge liability and a worthless body on the rift. And after three losses trying it, don't ever have Xmithie do jungle Ez ever again.
LMAO what? Smithie and Flame were the reason they were even close in those games. Cody Sun/POB choked hard under pressure.
You mean when Flame was an underwhelming Maokai then dove Fnatic under their tower to get melted and set up the first loss? Or when he and Xmithie couldn't do squat after getting first blood?
Basically everyone but Olleh was bad today. From all evidence Pobelter and Xmithie shouldn't play Ryze and Ezreal again because they couldn't get any meaningful work done and haven't gotten them any wins. Meanwhile, Flame is lacking badly. OK, so he can farm up hard on Renekton, J4, or Rumble, but unless those three are in an OP state, he can't turn any of his leads into a meaningful gain for his team. His champion pool is horribly shallow, he positions poorly in team fights and at best cleans up after Cody Sun and Pobelter put in the majority of the damage. He doesn't make great engages, he doesn't play tanks well, and is underwhelming as a split pusher duelist. He can't adapt to a meta outside a narrow strength, not worth keeping.
You mean when Flame was an underwhelming Maokai then dove Fnatic under their tower to get melted and set up the first loss? Or when he and Xmithie couldn't do squat after getting first blood?
Basically everyone but Olleh was bad today. From all evidence Pobelter and Xmithie shouldn't play Ryze and Ezreal again because they couldn't get any meaningful work done and haven't gotten them any wins. Meanwhile, Flame is lacking badly. OK, so he can farm up hard on Renekton, J4, or Rumble, but unless those three are in an OP state, he can't turn any of his leads into a meaningful gain for his team. His champion pool is horribly shallow, he positions poorly in team fights and at best cleans up after Cody Sun and Pobelter put in the majority of the damage. He doesn't make great engages, he doesn't play tanks well, and is underwhelming as a split pusher duelist. He can't adapt to a meta outside a narrow strength, not worth keeping.
I disagree.
Flame, Xmithie, and Olleh are actually above average tier. If they're put in a winning situation, they can carry fairly hard. In a losing situation, they can hold their own. Flame wasn't outplayed, it's the cause of other lane losing and outclassing in pick/bans.
If there is anyone to remove, IMO, it'll be Pobelter and Cody Sun. CLG made the right choice to keep Huhi over Pobelter, and there's a reason for it. You can now see clearly why during Summer NA Splits and Worlds Week One and Two.
What IMT need to do is draft PowerofEvil unto the team as their mid laner and have a strong ADC carry, whoever may that be.
I disagree.
Flame, Xmithie, and Olleh are actually above average tier. If they're put in a winning situation, they can carry fairly hard. In a losing situation, they can hold their own. Flame wasn't outplayed, it's the cause of other lane losing and outclassing in pick/bans.
If there is anyone to remove, IMO, it'll be Pobelter and Cody Sun. CLG made the right choice to keep Huhi over Pobelter, and there's a reason for it. You can now see clearly why during Summer NA Splits and Worlds Week One and Two.
What IMT need to do is draft PowerofEvil unto the team as their mid laner and have a strong ADC carry, whoever may that be.
PoE is really bad, he is. People are still sleeper woreshipping him.
You mean when Flame was an underwhelming Maokai then dove Fnatic under their tower to get melted and set up the first loss? Or when he and Xmithie couldn't do squat after getting first blood?
Basically everyone but Olleh was bad today. From all evidence Pobelter and Xmithie shouldn't play Ryze and Ezreal again because they couldn't get any meaningful work done and haven't gotten them any wins. Meanwhile, Flame is lacking badly. OK, so he can farm up hard on Renekton, J4, or Rumble, but unless those three are in an OP state, he can't turn any of his leads into a meaningful gain for his team. His champion pool is horribly shallow, he positions poorly in team fights and at best cleans up after Cody Sun and Pobelter put in the majority of the damage. He doesn't make great engages, he doesn't play tanks well, and is underwhelming as a split pusher duelist. He can't adapt to a meta outside a narrow strength, not worth keeping.
Flame was about to get out, but got hooked back in by sOAZ. But that didnt set up the loss. That was Cody Sun having a mental breakdown. If they just backed they could defend. But you cant really call a support player that good in this meta, its almost only shielding.
Dude, he was able to be hooked back because it was a stupid dive that let him get chain CC'd to death and left his team without a front line and saw Olleh and Xmithie burned down. Even if Cody Sun hadn't flashed in, Fnatic were able to chase down Pobelter and at best Cody would have basically been helpless to stop the blitz short of a different suicide stand.
And of you can't give credit to supports for smart shielding and CC to protect damage dealers, you are a poor judge of skill and breakdown.
It truly is nice to see dylan falco be a part of another IMT choke in which they're considered massive favorites.