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I'm actually happy CLG lost for some reason

Azukus··2 votes·693 views

Not because I'm a huge Team Liquid fan (even though I am) but because some CLG fans (friends of mine) forgot what happened in Spring and kept trash talking. Not only that, but CLG made a bad choice banning Kalista (because TL lost those games anyway) and didn't ban Azir. I mean, ever since TL vs C9 in Spring Playoffs (before TL broke out the Lulu 3 times in a row and put Fenix in a support-mid type of deal) and Fenix's many other Azir games, I don't know why one wouldn't ban Azir versus TL. CLG was just sloppy ever since that first blood.

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Modnar Erom2 votes

I knew they would lose as soon as I saw the switch to Eve.

Flowchart on should you play Eve professionally:

Are you good enough to have Eve banned against you, and is it currently banned? Maybe...

Eve is available? No, you should not play it.

I mean it is one of the most transparent, disrespectful picks you could make. Your win conditions are win in the first 10 minutes or have your team hard carry you 4v5 (because it isn't soloq).

If it was just an Eve pick, that would be bad, but this is CLG so it is much worse. First, they pick it early, while TL has 4 picks left to avoid pressure early game.

Going to gank Sion.... probably not. Going to gank Azir.... probably not. Going to counter jungle Ekko.... probably not.

Let see, that leaves hard farming, in which case Eve scales to nowhere - GG, or Eve goes bot (with an Ashe, Bard botlane). You couldn't make the play more obvious. Let's hope TL doesn't pick up on this cunning plan...

But it gets worse. I'm not going to hate on Xmithie here, but let's be real, he has his limitations. So why in the world would a sane coach/manager, put 100% of the pressure for winning the game on his shoulders, with no backup plan? And no, playing 4v5 as Eve looks on from the sidelines is not a backup plan.

But it gets worse. Rumble was available for Zion, which he crushes with. That would allow Xmithie to then play J4 or some other physical JG with an early game presence and doesn't fall off the cliff of uselessness late-game without kills. Or if you really wanted Zion on Gnar, Sej or even Shyvana would have been better.

CLG's loss to TSM was exactly the same though, pick a Lee Sin which had zero early game presence and auto-lose.

So yeah, if you tell a good professional team exactly what you are going to do before you do it, you should probably expect (and certainly deserve) to lose.

Minrog1 votes

I think the idea with the comp was to split push 1/2/1 with Eve roaming between the 3 lanes. Use the double teleport to pick off people who are trying to rotate around.

If they intended to group 5 mid and push over and over, they should have dumped Eve/Gnar/TF and played waveclear/reliable wombo champs. I don't think changing Gnar for Rumble would have done anything because the rest of the team was single target CC focused.

Azukus1 votes

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I think the idea with the comp was to split push 1/2/1 with Eve roaming between the 3 lanes. Use the double teleport to pick off people who are trying to rotate around.

If they intended to group 5 mid and push over and over, they should have dumped Eve/Gnar/TF and played waveclear/reliable wombo champs. I don't think changing Gnar for Rumble would have done anything because the rest of the team was single target CC focused.

Well, he said J4 instead of Eve as well. Zion is a beast at Rumble and whoever was trapped in J4's ult with Rumble ult in it would be dead. Rumble Ult, J4 Ult, Bard Ult (plus Q), Ashe Ult, and even TF Ult + Stun Card + Zhonyas. Even if it was a pick comp, I'm sure that with a J4 and Rumble, they'd have AoE, CC, and picks. TF Red Card did plenty of damage alone.

Mat7itan1 votes

I'm glad they lost because if they had won yesterday and tsm won today there would be a tie for first. If CLG wins today then they will be in first and if TSM wins today then they will be in first. I think it will make for a much more intense match.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

I glad they lost; you know why? Because Doublelift is too cocky. I've seen how he acts when they winning to the point that he actively attacks other members or teams. When he losing he is more down to earth

Modnar Erom1 votes

ROFL, and CLG did it again. Meanwhile, TSM picks J4 and Rumble.

But at least Eve had that early game presence and was able to keep TSM out of their jungle.... oh wait.

Hotshot please.

Linthe1 votes

The Kalista ban was fine. I think she should be an auto-ban for Piglet. He is so good on Kalista.

Azukus1 votes

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The Kalista ban was fine. I think she should be an auto-ban for Piglet. He is so good on Kalista.

It is fine, but Azir on Fenix is a much bigger threat. Even before that CLG game, Fenix was still a HUGE threat on Azir in my opinion. Just like C9 vs TL in playoffs (before they threw by making him go Lulu mid 3 times in a row)

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