It is so quiet

Not really... I'm not excusing TSM's loss, they lost 2 games against RNG which showed that RNG was the better team (coincidentally this fits the "BO3 are better at determining the better team" point that I was making). And I'm not saying that RNG won with a cheese, they had pretty standard comps and I do agree that RNG outplayed TSM both games. If you go back and read what I wrote, you will see that I was completely neutral regarding teams so if you got a bias out of that, then you must be reading to far into the region next to my name.

All I did was point out the flawed logic behind the claim that best of ones are consistent. ( just to reiterate: if this were a best of 3, RNG won the 1st two games which means they would win that series... no salt, no excuses, not taking anything away from RNG, just saying BO1 are nowhere near as consistent as BO3)

Um, I am right. The Korean teams always make it out of groups, the NA teams almost always botch groups. Those seem like pretty consistent results to me.

If the consistency you were reffering to was NA's results, you need to work on saying what you mean, sure NA doesnt usually get out of groups, but that has nothing to do with BO1s. I would not argue against NA's tendency to do poorly on the international stage because it happens more often than not.** I was saying that BO1's arent consistent... which were the actual words that you actually said.**

That really isn't true. BEST OF ONES SEEM TO HAVE A VERY CONISTANT OUTCOME. NA pushed out of groups. That isn't a crap shoot anymore. That is a law.

and unless you for some reason think that Best of One's consistently show which team is better, then you are WRONG.

seeing as how that doesnt look like what you are arguing, I suggest you go back and re-phrase your statement to something more along the lines of:

" ~~best of ones ~~ [group stage] seems to have a very consistent outcome..." (if not, you could at least go back and fix the spelling)

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I agree, though I had CLG making it out of groups and I thought, in the beginning, that TSM might have a chance. Largely it was cause I thought tsm was pretty decent and I knew g2 was going to bomb. However, I didn't see ANX stomping all over a half assed CLG. Of course, I was quick to see the writing on the wall and I knew as soon as CLG lost that NA was going to do the same thing they do every year.

I can't agree more about Doublelift. I always thought Wildturtle, Sneaky and Stixxay were better adcs. However, that draft against RNG showed that they didn't give a shit from the beginning. They give away A. Sol, take braum instead of allistar, reksai instead of any of the winning junglers, and then, on top of it all, they put hauntzer on jayce. Like obviously, they guy can't play anything that could be called a carry. Why would you not put him on some kind of tank. Cause you think RNG is going to be an easy win, that's why.

To be fair, RNG showed to be playing pretty poorly all day so you can "kinda" forgive them for taking it a bit lightly. That being said, watching that game sorta made me giggle a bit. They have sol "removed" for a bunch of their games due to bugs, have it vs them in another game that matters, and it seems as though they lacked a "contingency" to deal with it. While ryze can be decent into it in lane, I'd hardly call it a counter pick and can very easily name 3 "better" options (Malz/TF/Karthus) that bring much more utility to the team.

Oh, and the ANX thing was definitely the biggest surprise of the tournament. Not only do they make it out of a group featuring 3 "decent" teams, but they did so by beating each of them at least once and with zero scrim time before worlds. It's one of those things that you kinda gotta feel happy about (especially with them qualifying for IEM katowice), as they're more or less showing that teams don't have to rely on the standard stuff (whether it be picks, or korean bootcamping, or even scrims) to have success at international tournaments. Which reminds me, what was g2's excuse again?