TSM lost to KT

Archon X·Oct 2, 2015·4 votes·1,997 views

there, I just saved you 16 minutes.

37 Comments

VasilisGreenOct 2, 20155 votes

TSM will be the worlds punching bag this year like it was at MSI... nothing new.

MercuryCannonsOct 2, 20151 votes

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TSM will be the worlds punching bag this year like it was at MSI... nothing new.

and like every other EU team for the past 2 years.

Gaxx DOct 2, 20154 votes

For the past 2 years? 2 years ago Fnatic went up to semis. Do your research, salty TSM fanboy.

Yxgl222HaXOct 2, 20151 votes

I know right? like fnatic diddnt make it to the semi finals last year. Seesh. they only lost to OMG by literally one hit on the nexus that game was amazing

VasilisGreenOct 2, 20151 votes

Gaxx D (EUW) For the past 2 years? 2 years ago Fnatic went up to semis. Do your research, salty TSM fanboy.

As Gaxx D said, do your research.

Yxgl222HaXOct 2, 20151 votes

Dyrus will be the first blood king. Well, first blood given anyway

VasilisGreenOct 2, 20151 votes

I hate how dyrus always takes the blame and also is the focal point of every team. and what do they do to change it? nothing. that's TSM for ya. Bjerg is not the center of the world, the sooer they realise it, the better.

LintheOct 2, 20151 votes

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I hate how dyrus always takes the blame and also is the focal point of every team. and what do they do to change it? nothing. that's TSM for ya. Bjerg is not the center of the world, the sooer they realise it, the better.

Because he gets caught out.. A LOT.

VasilisGreenOct 3, 20151 votes

Well, if i send 2 guys coming from the enemy's side, youback away, and if i send 2 more to come from behind you, you are surrounded and therefore die... 1 man can't ward enough before lvl 9 and when he has to defend a turret and farm. you can't call a4 man dive "Getting caught out"...

LintheOct 4, 20151 votes

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Well, if i send 2 guys coming from the enemy's side, youback away, and if i send 2 more to come from behind you, you are surrounded and therefore die... 1 man can't ward enough before lvl 9 and when he has to defend a turret and farm. you can't call a4 man dive "Getting caught out"...

Watch was MaoKai did today. That is exactly what Dyrus should have done. Give up the turret.

VasilisGreenOct 5, 20151 votes

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Watch was MaoKai did today. That is exactly what Dyrus should have done. Give up the turret.

What game? I didn't have time to watch today :/

LintheOct 5, 20151 votes

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What game? I didn't have time to watch today :/

Invictus v AHQ. AHQ Ziv on Mao. 4 man dive in the bot lane iirc.

VasilisGreenOct 6, 20151 votes

I'll check it out, thanks

Yxgl222HaXOct 3, 20151 votes

yeah i wasnt even saying it was his fault... its just everyone knows how tsm plays by now because they never do anything new or unexpected. So the same thing that happened at MSI is already happening again. Dyrus 2 deaths right off the bat what a surprise. Just gonna camp him till tsm loses groups.

VasilisGreenOct 3, 20151 votes

Exactly!!!

LintheOct 2, 20151 votes

So they changed the ff time.. that is what you are saying?

Archon XOct 2, 20151 votes

no it was essentially open mid because Bjergsen is incompetent

LintheOct 2, 20152 votes

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no it was essentially open mid because Bjergsen is incompetent

Well, at least we know how to value your posts going forward.

Archon XOct 2, 20151 votes

he burned his abilities on an ulting Alistar

lmao

LintheOct 2, 20151 votes

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no it was essentially open mid because Bjergsen is incompetent

So what does his solo kill say about Nagne?

Archon XOct 2, 20151 votes

Bjergsen lost his outer and inner turret

rip

HentRexOct 2, 20151 votes

To be fair, Santorin got caught. That's why they lost the towers.

LintheOct 2, 20151 votes

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Bjergsen lost his outer and inner turret

rip

Santorin lost it for him... Other than that, your post was correct.

FacyOct 2, 20151 votes

TSM has they way way better picks.... if they dont win this game then there is no game they can win.

HentRexOct 2, 20151 votes

Arguable. TSM has a great pick comp. KT has the better team fight.

FacyOct 2, 20151 votes

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Arguable. TSM has a great pick comp. KT has the better team fight.

ye even more weird they cant pick anything threats are like none excistens... its a shame they play their combo that bad.

HentRexOct 2, 20151 votes

KT's just not face checking, and is roaming as a group, playing safe and just pushing their advantage.

Colgate GatorOct 2, 20151 votes

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

AxestsOct 2, 20151 votes

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I find your lack of faith disturbing.

tsm lost

xJLx MCHammerOct 2, 20151 votes

http://i.imgur.com/tqdd3mN.png

RussoRedOct 2, 20151 votes

just goes to show u how op darius still is i mean come on just look at how it went down

PoisonedTeaOct 2, 20151 votes

the put wildturtle on vayne. Really Loco.

JavelinJoeOct 2, 20151 votes

Vayne is good and fits turtle's AA based champ abilities which (imo) are better than his Caster based champ abilities. He is great on Jinx and tristana but average on corki or kog'maw. BUT.... When they first pick a Darius you should go for a high range champ like Jinx, Caitlyn or Tristana to be able to still deal damage but from a bit further away. Tristana would be best for this since her escape would be great.

So yeah really Loco? Vayne maybe strong now and 'in meta' but she still is not ideal for that match-up

PoisonedTeaOct 2, 20151 votes

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Vayne is good and fits turtle's AA based champ abilities which (imo) are better than his Caster based champ abilities. He is great on Jinx and tristana but average on corki or kog'maw. BUT.... When they first pick a Darius you should go for a high range champ like Jinx, Caitlyn or Tristana to be able to still deal damage but from a bit further away. Tristana would be best for this since her escape would be great.

So yeah really Loco? Vayne maybe strong now and 'in meta' but she still is not ideal for that match-up

Doesnt change the fact that wildturtle is a bad vayne player. All ADCs are AA based champions. I get the feeling you never played vayne she is not a sit back and AA champion. Jinx is and Tristana is late game, and Kog`maw can be. Also I would not call wildturtle Corki good.

JavelinJoeOct 2, 20151 votes

I never said turtle was good at vayne. I said it matches his play style. Look back at Turtle's sppring game play. Jinx was consistently good for him. And by AA based champs i meant it was AA vs. Caster. Vayne's damage comes from almost entirely basic attacks. Where champions like Graves, Kog, Corki and AD Ez have either 1) damage from basics and some abilities which scale relatively well, or 2) almost all damage is from abilities (bursts like graves' kit) where their attack speed is slow so maintaining constant, high DPS is going to be difficult. Jinx although has both is more AA based than caster since she has a kit built for basic attacks (q) but also has some utility (e) and poke (w). From my experience at least, Jinx has an easier time getting to late game if she isn't ahead vs how easy it is for Vayne, simply because of her kit.

I do admit that I rarely play Vayne but it is because i rather have more than just basic attacks, stun/knockback, with a bit of movement speed.

Kal Vas FlamOct 6, 20151 votes

TSM is good but they don't make enough plays. They play too safe and imo don't use their skill sets to max effect. I thought their playstyle might be a strength against KR teams that punish bad fundamentals but not so sure now.