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How to fix tsm

Walmart Porn·5/11/2017, 10:41:47 PM·1 votes·1,388 views

Tsm keeps failing when it matters for a while, the main reason they made it to worlds was off of a throw from c9 in a late game bo5 teamfight c9 SHOULD have won (they even had baron and a big gold lead) but jensen forgot to ult on ekko. That asside tsm DOES have strong solo lanes. They definatly have potential but in international play sven is dead weight. He wasnt good on Sk gaming in eu and hes not suddenly going to become good in NA just because hes on bjergs team, so how do you fix this? Tsm has one of the weakest bot lanes of the top 6 teams in NA right now, BUT DL will be back on after msi so that should put them back in top 3. All thats left is bench sven, try to pick up new tallent like c9 did, or try to pick up reignover who is consistantly good, meteos who is a monster at things like elise and zac , or inori who plays a mean kha/rango type jungle. Then they can focus less on "get mid/top ahead or we lose" and more on actual macro play, playing around dragons, first tower gold, jungle pathing and such. Theres to much on bjerg and hauntzer to carry right now and international teams like skt and even g2 should be able to pick up on that pretty easily. Personally i prefer c9 myself id be happy if c9 just traded jensen for bjerg and became the super team but thats just me

16 Comments

FooDang5/11/2017, 11:18:24 PM3 votes

Sven is fine, they just need to put him on a leash. He tries too hard to force #Biglcsplays and he makes poor decisions when he goes into fog of war territory. He's too aggressive, TSM needs to hire a mathematician to help him analyze when his all ins are calculated in his favor because...sometimes his all-ins are cringeworthy. His mechanics are there but this isn't NALCS. When your going against the best and their skill rotations are perfect math will be the determining factor if you will win or not in an all in.

(FYI haven't seen any MSI groups matches yet)

Lugg5/11/2017, 11:05:15 PM1 votes

TSM only builds their team to win NA. That's literally it. Until they clean house in the coaching staff and analysts, they will always be a disappointment on the world stage.

Miror B5/11/2017, 11:10:31 PM1 votes

Just going to go ahead and copy/paste my response from your thing in the other topic, as I kinda answered this thing...

If TSM really wants to do well internationally, they can't keep buying talent. Most top-tier teams tend to have a core of players while only subbing out 1-2 players tops per year. C9's been doing it, SKT's been doing it (with their "free agents" apparently being paid upwards of $800k per year in an attempt to get the Belichick effect going on), even Fnatic's kinda been doing it even though their success in spring was shite at best. While TSM's plan works short term (as NA is such a dearth-ey region that you can rely on skill alone and finish in top-3), the lack of chemistry combined with what looks to be a somewhat lackadasical coaching staff has them faulter massively against better competition. TSM almost desperately needs either a bigger roster (get a bunch of subs to learn underneath bjerg/others) and/or a revitalized coaching staff, as few people remember the domestic accomplishments when the teams in question get destroyed at worlds every year.

Starboyˇ5/11/2017, 11:21:19 PM1 votes

Sven is fine unless he does stupid invades

SpongebobIsLife5/12/2017, 2:45:25 AM1 votes

They need to get rid of sven and wildturtle. Sven's early game is tragic.

Ale non è male5/12/2017, 10:35:46 AM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tacos and sex,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=AEFVaA9K,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-11T22:41:47.398+0000) He wasnt good on Sk gaming in eu

LMFAO Dude, he is playing really bad so far at MSI, but what you said is just dumb. He singlehandily carried a team made by very average players (in one of the lowest seasons quality wise of EU LCS history) like SK Gaming to S4 Worlds, and SK with him at Worlds went 2-1 in the second half of the round robin, beating TSM and losing a close game vs Worlds finalist, meaning they would have likely got through the group stage if he just wasn't so stupid with that racism incident.

What TSM has to change is their way if thinking, they are used to think they are the best mechanically in NA, and this is just not true when they go fighting on International stages. Bjerg is consistent but he does not have the peaks of the best International midlaners and you can't count in him beating his competition in every game (heck, except the low quality teams in the IEM won by TSM and S4 Worlds he has been generally being beaten by enemy midlaners), Hauntzer is not above average, Sven has far less margin foto mistakes because he would get snowballed upon if he fail early (thing that happened in NA RS too before he stepped up big in playoffs), Bio is not there yet as level and WT/DL can't play so aggressive

WhiperSnapers5/13/2017, 6:03:49 AM1 votes

Honestly they're losing half of these games during draft. If they fixed that, chances are that they would look a lot better.

archerno15/11/2017, 10:44:01 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tacos and sex,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=AEFVaA9K,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-11T22:41:47.398+0000)

Tsm keeps failing when it matters for a while, the main reason they made it to worlds was off of a throw from c9 in a late game bo5 teamfight c9 SHOULD have won (they even had baron and a big gold lead) but jensen forgot to ult on ekko. That asside tsm DOES have strong solo lanes. They definatly have potential but in international play sven is dead weight. He wasnt good on Sk gaming in eu and hes not suddenly going to become good in NA just because hes on bjergs team, so how do you fix this? Tsm has one of the weakest bot lanes of the top 6 teams in NA right now, BUT DL will be back on after msi so that should put them back in top 3. All thats left is bench sven, try to pick up new tallent like c9 did, or try to pick up reignover who is consistantly good, meteos who is a monster at things like elise and zac , or inori who plays a mean kha/rango type jungle. Then they can focus less on "get mid/top ahead or we lose" and more on actual macro play, playing around dragons, first tower gold, jungle pathing and such. Theres to much on bjerg and hauntzer to carry right now and international teams like skt and even g2 should be able to pick up on that pretty easily. Personally i prefer c9 myself id be happy if c9 just traded jensen for bjerg and became the super team but thats just me

Jensen forgetting to ulti on Ekko was in game 2 when C9 was stomped. In 5th game he was CCed. What makes u think C9 would be willing to pay for Bjerg? They are doing pretty well with Jensen.

EPIKON5/13/2017, 6:11:07 AM1 votes

Get rid of Reginald as simple as that.